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Click to view fatozzig039's profile Legend 486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006
90. Oct 24, 2007 6:18 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Hippo - I like your comment of working to find a slower speed that you can run efficiently when necessary. I have a very hard time with that.

"Stubborness and lack of intelligence" - I kinda like that people look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them that I run now, and that I love trail running - the longer the better. I'm not up your level yet, but hope to be someday . . . . hopefully!

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Click to view mtnchk1's profile Legend 286 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
91. Oct 25, 2007 12:01 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
From somebody on the "T-shirt" thread: "You's guys about ain't got no sense!"
Click to view Mugulian's profile Amateur 24 posts since
Sep 26, 2007
93. Oct 25, 2007 2:35 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
This is my very first post. I have been lurking for a while (an ugly word but i guess thats what I've been doing). My stoopid question revolves around being prepared. I started running in August and did my own version of the C25K. I am a 21 year old male and have successfully gone from 250 to 225 through diet and exercise. I ran my first 5k at the end of september with a time of 27:51 which blew my mind because I have never been very athletic. I signed up for a 10k on Nov 11th. I have been increasing my long run to 7 miles (successfully done that 3 times), but I still feel like im not that fast. It takes about 1 hour 20 minutes to do the 7 miles. I am afraid that I am pushing myself to hard and will finish last at the race. During the week i run 4 runs, 3 at either 4 or 5 miles and then the long run of 7 miles. I am just wondering if this is enough to be ready for the 10k or if im just setting myself up for disappointment. My goal is to run a HM in april and a full marathon this time next year. Any thoughts or suggestions are really appreciated. Before I forget, the other big thing is I have rheumatoid arthritis so I am really trying to be careful with my joints but havent really had any problems so far. Thanks for any info.
Click to view mtnchk1's profile Legend 286 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
95. Oct 25, 2007 2:52 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
& on that note, (yes, you're doing awesome!!) I'm not so sure that speed should be your 1st concern! build distance slowly - your connective tissue & joints will thank you for it! think of it this way, it's gonna take you ALOT longer to reach your goals if you get injured!! & by building distance, thereby stamina, the speed, to some degree, will take care of itself....& I 2nd: See a good sports med Doc about your RA...
Click to view arlahile's profile Pro 145 posts since
Sep 22, 2006
96. Oct 25, 2007 6:31 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Mugulian - I'm sure you have a rheumatologist, and I would LOVE to hear what the advice is on running (I teach college biology to pre-health profession students and always like tidbits of medical info to add to lectures). Otherwise - WOW, you're doing Great! What a fantastic newbie 5K time! I think you'll do great on your next race!

Arla
Click to view MM Hippo's profile Legend 202 posts since
Apr 28, 2006
97. Oct 25, 2007 7:01 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Mugulian, trust us that at your current speed you won't be anywhere near last. Somewhere in mid-pack would be more my guess. That's a friendly place to be - many might say the best place to be, though everybody wishes they were faster.

The one red flag I see in your expectations is too fast a progression to marathon. I would hazard a guess that with those expectations your training schedule is more likely to cause you problems than the RA. I would suggest you think about really getting comfortable at 1/2M before going onward. A typical marathon training program is 5-6 months, you might think about running several 1/2s before starting that brutal ramp-up. In my experience, the marathon training programs flatten a lot more people than the marathons do.

FWIW, I have OA like someone 25 years older. Running may actually improve it a little. Don't know if that relates to RA at all though.

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98. Oct 25, 2007 7:35 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Ok...I have a "stupid question".....

Does the OUTSIDE TEMP have anything to do with how long it takes you to "warm up"?

I do some light stretching and then a 5 min brisk walk, some more stretching, a few more minutes of brisk walk and then break into my run....so...if it's COLD (30's) outside, does that affect how "warmed up" my muscles are?

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Click to view Chkboxr's profile Legend 307 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
99. Oct 25, 2007 7:35 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Hi, I guess I've been lurking as well. I too am fairly 'new' to running in that I run fairly consistently over the spring/summer and fall but seem to shut down over the winter I've run some 5k's coming in each time between 28 -29:30 which I'm perfectly happy with. Ok, you're thinking where's the question. Here goes, in late June I was almost hit by a big rig - idiot saw me but decided that he had the right to go. I stopped just in time but the result was pain in the outside of my left knee Went to my Primary doctor and she referred me to a specialist (which the appt was in Sept) she said if the pain did not go away to keep the appt if it did go away just cancel. Well it seemed to go away after only doing some pool running and maybe some walking for most of July and some of August. Since then I've run, altough not consistently and then yesterday I ran 3.5 at a 9:10 pace got home and the outside my knee is killing me. No swelling but it does hurt. A guy I know (has run numerous marathons) said that if I can get into a catcher's squat with no pain then it is not actually my knee but more likely my hamstring or calf. I can do that without pain. What do people think? and, if it is does turn out to be hamstring/calf do you all know of any really good stretches? thanks, Cherrie
Click to view fatozzig039's profile Legend 486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006
100. Oct 25, 2007 8:46 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
luv2talk - Laying is the key to keeping warm during the cold winter. You can wear a tech shirt against your skin and a cotton T over that - as many layers as you need. For me, how cold it is outside affects how long it takes me to warm up. Hence, the layering. Helps to keep the heat in where it's suppose to be.

You should never stretch cold muscles. If you want to stretch prior to running, to a brisk 5 min walk to warm up, stretch for a couple of minutes, then go. However, once it gets real cold, you may opt to do your warm up and then head right into running as stopping to stretch may cool you down. Just incorporate a really good stretching routine at the end.

You will get many opinions re stretching. I used to stretch after my warm up and after my run; however, my running coach has recommended stretching only after running as there doesn't seem to be any real good evidence that stretching before you run does anything for you. Many believe stretching after a run doesn't do anything either. I don't agree with that. So to stretch or not to stretch? That is a question only you can answer.

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I know the price of Success: Dedication, hard work, and an unremitting devotion to the things you want to see happen. ~ Frank Lloyd Wright
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Click to view Tamara40's profile Legend 219 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
102. Oct 25, 2007 9:38 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Mugulian,

Welcome and congrats on your progress so far! You're doing great. Like everyone else, I would not be concerned about speed at all. I run very slow too but I learned not to be so concerned about speed when I'm trying to increase my distance. I will do speedwork when I'm ready to improve that area of running. You will not be in the last of the pack, rest assured...but even if you are..is there anything wrong with that?

Secondly, i wanted to tell you that my running partner has RA too, and she's only in her early 20's. She was diagnosed when she was 13. She has run 3 marathons, and getting ready to run her 4th with me in a couple of weeks (my first). She has managed to do it successfully, AND she's WAY faster than me! However, with that said, she has had her fair share of difficulties...just make sure you keep in touch with your Rheumatologist. Your joints won't recover like those of us who are disease free, so you may need some extra support. I see no reason why you can't accomplish your goals, just be smart and methodical about it.

Good luck and let us know how you do...you can stop lurking now and join us!!
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103. Oct 25, 2007 10:58 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Thanks for the replies! I'd heard that about not stretching cold muscles.....I guess some habits are hard to break. I guess I'll just head out and start with the brisk walk for the warm up and see how that feels.

For such a "simple" sport, there sure is a lot to learn!

Luv2talk
Click to view Mugulian's profile Amateur 24 posts since
Sep 26, 2007
104. Oct 25, 2007 11:39 PM in response to: Better than yesterday
Thank you to everyone who posted a response, I am truly overwhelmed. I always feel a little weird because most people my age that run are exceedingly fast. The day I passed 100 miles on my log I wanted to have a party. I will definitely just try to enjoy my running and progress and am working on getting an appointment with my rheumatologist to see what they have to say (I can be kind of bad about keeping up with that, many excuses, just no good ones). Thank you Tamara40 for your post about running with someone that has RA, it makes me feel like this is all possible. And MM Hippo, I think it is smart to work at the HM before looking at the marathon. Somedays its just hard not to think about the ultimate goal, but the one thing I will always do is respect the distance. Thank you everyone for making me feel welcome. Enough lurking.