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Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

30. Nov 2, 2007 7:06 AM

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Re: Newbies: It is OK to WALK--Believe Me.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by runwild:
Hi guys! OK What the heck is OHR or that program I keep seeing written about? Is it for everyone?
Nick - nice to get words of wisdom form someone who is experience. Much better than just reading a book!
So you posted back before that a half marathon by April wasn't too lofty, but then you said maybe in 10 yr a full marathon. So does it really take that long to get ready for a marathon? I''ll be 37 in December. I've always dreamed of running a marathon. I was hoping to do it by my fortieth b-day. Feasible or not?
Plus, why do we hear of so many doctors out there knocking running, and running marathons?
I was driving along today, and I saw this man who looked to be 70 or 80. And I kid you not, he was running along, with an MP3, & a cool outfit. But the kicker? His legs! He must've thought I was some crazy pervert Mom, cause I slowed down to stare at his legs - they were in better shape than most 20yr olds you see! So how can this sport/hobby be bad for you if it keeps people in such good shape?<HR>

Hi Runwild,
I think my mention of running a marathon in 10 years was meant to give folks the idea of long range goals. Many folks get off the couch--get in shape run a few races--then decide to run a marathon--then sadly many return to the couch. If one gets to love running thinking about doing marathons--or whatever involving running 10--20--30+ yrs down the road--that is what I was alluding to.

I think fit doctors are much in favor of their patients developing a healthy,fit lifestyle. Sadly a lot of doctors see patients who aren't patient-- and want to run a marathon several months after they start running and end up with all sorts of running overuse injuries. Unfit doctors--that should be a contradiction in terms-- may well be threatened by patients who are fitter than they are. Also, doctors normally see folks who don't live healthy lifestyles more frequently and are not use to dealing with what I call "diseases of excellence" from active fit people.

Oh, I just checked out my 64 yr old legs and I think they look pretty good. Kinda skinny, but they have gotten the job done--64,996 miles and counting. Nick

mrinertia

1,356 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

31. Nov 2, 2007 7:34 AM

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Re: Newbies: It is OK to WALK--Believe Me.

Nick, you're awesome.

But I do want to take a moment and say there is a time and a place for running so hard you see spots and your intestines feel like they're going to exit your body along with your lungs and spleen, each out of a different oriface.

Working on being a lifetime runner myself. What an awesome journey it's been so far.

carol40

192 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

32. Nov 2, 2007 8:24 AM

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Nick, just wanted to thank you for your posts. Not only do I read them, but I read them out loud to my husband. He is a pretty laid back guy and has taken a very gradual approach to running, but sometimes starts to feel that he runs too slow. He needs to hear your voice and is always encouraged by it.

I need to hear your voice to counter my lapses of patience. I thought I had geared up pretty slowly to run my first 1/2 marathon, but wound up with a hip flexor strain at the wrong time. Some might try plowing through and risking further injury, but I'd rather run and walk for years to come just like Long Run Nick!

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33. Nov 2, 2007 8:51 AM

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Nick,

YO-DA-MAN!! THANKS!!

cheers to your post from a newbie on CR and to jogging!!

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Long Run Nick

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Dec 14, 2007

34. Nov 2, 2007 10:11 AM

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Re: Newbies: It is OK to WALK--Believe Me.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by mrinertia:
Nick, you're awesome.

But I do want to take a moment and say there is a time and a place for running so hard you see spots and your intestines feel like they're going to exit your body along with your lungs and spleen, each out of a different oriface.

Working on being a lifetime runner myself. What an awesome journey it's been so far. <HR>

I agree wholeheartedly. I have run in over 400 races from 1 mile to 100K. Some of them I run for fun--some I put it all on the line. White spots--dry heaves--dizzy. Yup! Been there and done that. Back in the day in-- my late 30's and early 40's--probably did that too often. I still "hammer it" once in awhile. I tell folks when I race now I run as hard as I ever did, just not as fast. Nick

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35. Nov 2, 2007 12:16 PM

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Refreshing topic. I posted earlier today on the Tortoise thread taht I run sooo slow and walk more than half the time out there. I'm fine with that. I'm patient. I've started the C25K off and on for the past few months. Usually hot weather (not lack of motivation) keeping me from doing it. Whatever the excuse, weather is cooling down (Houston) and I am ready to work on my running. I'm on Week 3 where you run for 3 mins and then walk for 3 mins. During the 3 min run (more like a hopping walk for me) my HR gets to 190. I dont' see spots or anything, but my HR is always high. I repeated Week 2, I will repeat Week 3. I cannot physically run slower than I do. I can do an hour hard spin class and never go above 175. Can it be that the C25K program is even too hard for some people? ..even repeating weeks.

mrinertia

1,356 posts since
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36. Nov 2, 2007 2:31 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by eveadele:
Refreshing topic. I posted earlier today on the Tortoise thread taht I run sooo slow and walk more than half the time out there. I'm fine with that. I'm patient. I've started the C25K off and on for the past few months. Usually hot weather (not lack of motivation) keeping me from doing it. Whatever the excuse, weather is cooling down (Houston) and I am ready to work on my running. I'm on Week 3 where you run for 3 mins and then walk for 3 mins. During the 3 min run (more like a hopping walk for me) my HR gets to 190. I dont' see spots or anything, but my HR is always high. I repeated Week 2, I will repeat Week 3. I cannot physically run slower than I do. I can do an hour hard spin class and never go above 175. Can it be that the C25K program is even too hard for some people? ..even repeating weeks.<HR>

Heat will elevate your HR, so that's one factor. I would also guess that your start/stop relationship with running is another factor. If you train consistently, you will become more efficient. As that happens, you'll be able to run faster/further at the same HR. Consistency is key.

Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

37. Nov 2, 2007 2:40 PM

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Re: Newbies: It is OK to WALK--Believe Me.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by eveadele:
Refreshing topic. I posted earlier today on the Tortoise thread taht I run sooo slow and walk more than half the time out there. I'm fine with that. I'm patient. I've started the C25K off and on for the past few months. Usually hot weather (not lack of motivation) keeping me from doing it. Whatever the excuse, weather is cooling down (Houston) and I am ready to work on my running. I'm on Week 3 where you run for 3 mins and then walk for 3 mins. During the 3 min run (more like a hopping walk for me) my HR gets to 190. I dont' see spots or anything, but my HR is always high. I repeated Week 2, I will repeat Week 3. I cannot physically run slower than I do. I can do an hour hard spin class and never go above 175. Can it be that the C25K program is even too hard for some people? ..even repeating weeks.<HR>

A suggestion. Try no running--just walking. Gentle pace --walk for a month or so--just walking--gradually build time walking till you walk comfortably for an hour or so. Then, try the run/walk routine. Most folks don't have the patience to build slowly and strongly. That is one of the reasons that a lot of folks lose interest in running--by doing too much --too soon--too fast or not seeing much progress after several months--after being sedentary for years. Patience Grasshopper, Patience. Nick

contempory4me

2 posts since
Mar 26, 2007

38. Nov 2, 2007 4:35 PM

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Thanks Nick!
I started the C25K in May- I'm 40, about 20 lbs overwieght and in bad shape before I started. I made the distance on the C25K but never the time. My pace is between 13-14 min/mile.

About a month ago my 10yo son wanted to "run" with me so I set out first to set the pace and then he followed. I was mortified when I turned around and he was WALKING! It was so embarrassing. My friends and neighbors say that they see me jogging around town, I had no idea I was that slow! well, I've been too discouraged and embarrassed to get back out there. The frosting on the cake was a day later when one of my neighbors said that her husband makes comments about people that he thinks "really shouldn't be running"

After reading your post- I think its time to get back out there- even if I am "slogging"

jjwaverly42

337 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

39. Dec 25, 2007 10:27 PM

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Re: Newbies: It is OK to WALK--Believe Me.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by contempory4me:
Thanks Nick!
I started the C25K in May- I'm 40, about 20 lbs overwieght and in bad shape before I started. I made the distance on the C25K but never the time. My pace is between 13-14 min/mile.

About a month ago my 10yo son wanted to "run" with me so I set out first to set the pace and then he followed. I was mortified when I turned around and he was WALKING! It was so embarrassing. My friends and neighbors say that they see me jogging around town, I had no idea I was that slow! well, I've been too discouraged and embarrassed to get back out there. The frosting on the cake was a day later when one of my neighbors said that her husband makes comments about people that he thinks "really shouldn't be running"

After reading your post- I think its time to get back out there- even if I am "slogging"<HR>

Walking is cool. I walk. I'm cool.

Get away from your current insanity and refocus yourself to your goal and get your 20 pounds of saved up energy out there and run/walk and remember:

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contempory4me

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Mar 26, 2007

40. Nov 2, 2007 5:14 PM

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Thanks Jim,
You must be cool if you could fun that clip. That was hilarious!! Now I will look even sillier as I slog down the street singing "It just doesn't matter"
~Kate

kimber45caliber@yahoo.com

407 posts since
Oct 20, 2007

41. Dec 25, 2007 10:27 PM

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contempory4me, I run slower than you. One day this week I averaged 17/min miles! Usually I'm at about a 15/min/mile. But you know what? I started running with the C25K program in July. I thought I would die running for 60 seconds. I couldn't believe it when I actually ran 3 minutes.
And today, 4 months later, I ran 5 miles. It took me 1:16:48 but I ran it. I walked twice to take a drink of water but I really didn't need to walk because I was tired. I just haven't mastered the art of drinking and running

I'm not trying to get faster, although that would be a plus, I'm trying to build up my endurance without stressing my body. I managed to run all 5 miles under my desired HR and each mile was a little faster than the previous.

My point is, you're doing fine! I've run two 5K's and everyone passed me. The 70 year old men, the families pushing jogging strollers, the speed walkers, the 10 year old children.............I could go on and on. But I finished. I would never, ever have dreamed I could finish a 5K.
Oh, one other thing. I appear to be incredibly fit. No one believes I run as slow as I do. I've been working out for years, lifting weights, doing the eliptical. I am at my ideal weight, low body fat, blah, blah, blah. I still run slow. I don't know why, I just suck at running,lol. There have been plenty of women, weighing a lot more than me, who passed me in these 5K's. You say you're 20 lbs overweight and you run faster than me. There is no reason for you to be embarrassed about running. If anyone should be embarrassed it should be me. But I'm not embarrassed.
Yeah, I run slow but I'm doing the best I can. And the people who make comments about how slow I am are not out there running. They're sitting on their fat @ss, knowing they should be exercising. They want to put me down so they feel better about themselves.

Whew. Rant over. I get carried away sometimes

Btw, I've never seen Meatballs. Did they win the game? I know. It just doesn't matter

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Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

42. Nov 5, 2007 3:30 PM

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A self- absorbed bump. Nick

Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

43. Nov 24, 2007 12:07 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by Long Run Nick:
A self- absorbed bump. Nick<HR>

That idea didn't work well. How about some good info for Newbies needs to seen again. Nick

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44. Nov 25, 2007 12:22 AM

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I read this around the time I first started c25k. It really helped me especially when I got frustrated because I needed to repeat week 3.

Thanks so much LRN.

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