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Nov 26, 2007 1:09 PM

Arthritis at 27?

A couple weeks ago I thought I might have had a stress fracture so I went to the orthopedist to get it checked out. Since he was x-raying my lower legs anyway, I also had him do my knees. As it turned out, I just had really bad shin splints, but more importantly, he told me that I already have arthritis in my knees and that it is not advisable for me to continue to run.

Needless to say, I'm pretty upset. I truly love running and had planned on doing it until I'm old and grey. It keeps me sane...when I had to take time off I thought I was going to maim someone.

I've played sports my whole life (lax, bball, field hockey) and I remember having some minor knee issues when I was younger. I also remember having some discomfort when I started running more regularly about 3 years ago. At that time someone recommended that I try glucosamine/chondroitin and I've been on it ever since. It works so well that I honestly forgot that I had knee problems. Even now that I've increased my mileage to close to 20 mpw, I'm still not having that much knee discomfort.

Right now my mindset is to just continue to do what I love and if I have problems, just cross that bridge when I come to it. I know that's the immortal mindset of a young person, but I honestly don't want to stop.

Does anyone else here have arthritis or been told by their doctor not to run? Any words of wisdom or exercises to help slow down the deterioration process?
Click to view pygirl's profile Amateur 30 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
1. Nov 26, 2007 1:47 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Is your doctor a runner?
Find one who is. If they tell you not to run, then maybe you shouldn't. But if it makes you feel good and keeps you healthy then run.
Click to view Brandyshea's profile Pro 83 posts since
Oct 15, 2007
2. Nov 26, 2007 1:54 PM in response to: Guest
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I'm 26 and was just told by an orthopedist that I have arthritis in my knees. I've pretty much always had knee pain, since I was about 10 years old. My doctor is also a runner and he told me that I could continue to run, but that I might think about adding in some lower impact exercises like biking. I've started replacing some of my runs with a spin class. He told me that I could probably safely train for a half-marathon, but that I should reconsider doing a full marathon. He also said that there was no way he could tell how fast my knees would deteriorate, but that they eventually would. It could be 5 years from now or 25 years from now.

I'm just trying to take it as easy as I can and hope that by the time I need a knee replacement (heaven forbid!) the technology will be greatly improved. He also told me that since I'm so young, it's more than likely genetic. I've always been very active, I danced for fifteen years and started running last year. It did make me feel somewhat better to know that my knees would be this way now even if I had been a couch potato my whole life.
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3. Nov 26, 2007 2:07 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Yup, mine is most likely genetic too - my mom has had arthritis in her legs since she was 14. I would certainly have trouble with my knees even if I weren't active, I just wonder how much worse I am making it by running 4-5x per week. I was thinking about cutting back and adding in spinning as well. The doc recommended the elliptical, but honestly, I'd rather poke my own eyes out.

I guess I have the same mindset as you - hopefully by the time it really becomes a problem modern medicine will have come up with something better to treat it.

It's really discouraging though to be this young and to have to worry about something like this. The most annoying part is that it has taken away my total zen moment. For the past couple weeks, every time I run I will hear this little voice in the back of my mind, "You may be crippled by the time you're 35."
Click to view mtnchk1's profile Legend 286 posts since
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4. Nov 26, 2007 2:14 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Depends on what type of arthritis! Some is definitely improved by low impact/consistent movement.....Get more information + 2nd/3rd opinion....
Click to view Brandyshea's profile Pro 83 posts since
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5. Nov 26, 2007 2:49 PM in response to: Guest
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I totally feel you on taking away the zen moment. My mom keeps telling me that I'm going to ruin my knees if I keep running, so I just don't tell her about my running anymore. She's going to need a knee replacement soon (dr. told her it was 100% chance that she'd need one in the next 10 years). I don't think she's exercised a day in her life and she's about 80 pounds overweight. I think she needs to be more concerned about her knees than mine.
Click to view Mugulian's profile Amateur 24 posts since
Sep 26, 2007
6. Nov 26, 2007 5:16 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Im 22 years old and have had Rheumatoid Arthritis since I was 16. I started running this year and am up to about 25 mpw. Like most people suggest, try finding a doctor that runs or someone who specializes in sports medicine. Other than that, just try to find what works for you. Some days I just dont run because Im in pain, other days I feel like running helps me through it. Find your own pace.
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7. Nov 26, 2007 5:30 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
I'd definitely get a second opinion if you are unsure of the diagnosis.

I'm assuming that it is Osteoarthritis you have been diagnosed with (the one where your cartilage degrades at your joints, not the autoimmune form of arthritis which is Rheumatoid Arthritis). Have you had an X-ray to show radiographically that there is narrowing of the joint space (the gap between the ends of your bones at your knee that would normally be taken up with cartilage to help lubricate movement of your joint)?

Unfortunately I would listen to the advice of your doctor if they do say to stop running. Exercise is good for improving OA, especially as if you have less weight to carry around you will be loading your joints less. However, running is pretty high impact on your joints, and may, especially if you already have a genetic predisposition, accelerate the degradation of your cartilage. The main treatments ahead of you will be painkillers, anti-inflammatories, and I would guess surgery. Joint replacements are the major treatment of end stage disease and they do work. However bear in mind that you are pretty young, and the life of a replacement is 10-15 years, and that is in someone who is relatively inactive when compared to someone who runs lots.

Giving up running may sound like something truly horrendous right now, but, if you do end up with a 2nd and 3rd opinion recommending that you do, then I would definitely think hard about it. I don't want this to sound really depressing, but it's just worth thinking about the long term health of your joints. You've got many more years left in you, and it might be good to have joints that can still have you walking around and doing other activities without loads of pain and consequent disablement.
Click to view maryt091's profile Legend 806 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
8. Nov 26, 2007 5:41 PM in response to: Guest
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You should also see if you can make an appointment with a rheumatologist to see what kind of arthritis you have. Arthritis this early in life might be rheumatoid arthritis, and there are several drugs that can help a lot with that. It can cause problems in other parts of your body, not just your joints, and it's not something that should be ignored. Early treatment can delay joint damage. My brother has had good luck with methotrexate.
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9. Nov 26, 2007 5:47 PM in response to: Guest
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I agree with Mary on that too. I'd hope that if your doctor was worried about it being RA that they would have referred you for tests and to a Rheumatologist. The radiographic evidence of arthritis at the knee could be primary OA, or it could be secondary degradation as a result of Rheumatoid Arthritis. I'd assumed that you'd been checked for the possibility of RA. However I'm not sure how the medical system works in the USA as I'm in the UK and therefore have no experience of the USA system.
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10. Nov 26, 2007 6:00 PM in response to: Guest
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I think my next course of action is to find a more sports oriented doc, (hopefully one that runs) and a rheumatolgist. I have had x-rays done and I'm pretty sure that it's osteo, as the doc showed me where caritlage in one side of my knee is visibly less than the other, but I'm no expert.

Hopefully the next doc will be able to tell me more than, "ehh, maybe you should try the elliptical."
Click to view Jessical700's profile Amateur 16 posts since
Sep 6, 2007
11. Nov 26, 2007 6:11 PM in response to: Guest
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YES!!
I have arthirtis and it was also suggested to me by my orthapedic to use the elliptical instead of running. I was also very upset. I thought it was the end of my running life. I ended up getting a second opinion by another doctor who told me that an orthapedic shouldn't really be advising weather you should or shouldn't run because it is not their area of expertise. He advised me to see a sports medicine doctor and now after physical therapy, cortisone and therapeutic massages I am finally pain free and able to run. My point is that you should see a sports medicine doctor or a doctor who knows something about running. Most doctors who don't run and/ or aren't sports medicine doctors are going to advise you not to run if you have ANY aches and pains. Also, I learned that if you took x-rays of MOST people in their late twenties and early thirties you will find some degree of arthritis...it's just part of the aging process. Good luck.

"The woods are lovely dark and deep, but I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep" -Robert Frost

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12. Nov 26, 2007 7:35 PM in response to: Guest
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Wow, thanks Jessical. Your post really gives me hope that I may not necessarily have to quit. Like you said, it really does seem like all doctors immediately point to running as the source for all misery. My response to that is usually: aches and pains from being overweight are probably no fun either so I think I'll choose the ones from running.

Now to find a good doctor...
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13. Nov 26, 2007 7:56 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Six years ago, I got the diagnosis of cervical osteoarthritis as my 39th birthday present (the appointment was on my birthday, lucky me), and the physical therapist advised me to stop all impact activities. So being the good little trooper I am, I stopped running and tried to pursue other aerobic activities. Tried the elliptical; didn't do anything for my heart rate. Took up spinning; that just made my thighs even huger. Became an expert at racewalking; now THAT I just totally hated, because not only did I look stupid doing it all through the neighborhood, it felt like I was going so slow that I was traveling backwards.... needless to say, the following months were sheer **** for me. I missed running, and due to that, plus other reasons, I fell into a depressed funk. I got the diagnosis in May. By the following March my husband couldn't stand me anymore, and told me to risk hurting my neck and start running again (he said it and meant it a lot nicer than it sounds ). So I went against doctor's orders and started running again.

So what happened? NOTHING. My neck didn't break. I wasn't debilitated and crippled. I ran. I worked on improving my upper body posture while running from what I had learned in pilates and yoga, and NOTHING BAD HAPPENED. Granted, I was older than you, and my arthritis is in a different part of the body, but still, take everyone else's really great advice here and get other opinions. See medical professionals that are runners. Take up yoga to learn how to carry yourself in order to minimize your symptoms worsening. Or if you have no symptoms yet, to keep them from occurring. Most important, don't give up what you love, because otherwise, what you save won't be worth saving.

Oh, and for what it's worth, since that time I've also been told I have arthritis in my foot and upper back. Probably have it in my shoulder too. I still run. My S/I is totally wonky at times, and both the chiropractor I used to see and the physical therapist I see now both agree that my running helps keep me level. It's my sanity, and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

Good luck!

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14. Dec 25, 2007 11:17 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Arthritis at 27?
Ok Orangemat, now you are chanelling me! I recently have begun taking yoga again, not only to improve my quad and general leg strength (hopefully to help my knees) but also to help with other aches and pains. I love it - I just need to keep reminding myself how much better life is when doing yoga on a regular basis.

My fiancee basically told me the same thing your husband did. My sanity is important to him, as I drive us both crazy when I'm not running, lol. I believe his exact words on the subject were "You're going to go out some way, might as well be doing something you love and something that keeps you sane."

Has yoga helped with your upper back pain at all? That's actually the main reason I started doing it again. I need to build up my back muscles to help my posture and ultimately help my achey back.

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