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Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

15. Nov 30, 2007 7:42 AM

in response to: ch37082

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Quicheya34:
Background info-- 37 year old female-- 5'8 250 pounds but that is down from 300 in March. Started C25K in June and now running 5 miles per day consistenly.

I average between 13-15 minutes per mile, although on my 5 mile Thanksgiving run, I knocked it down to about 12:30.

I am getting very frustrated as it seems I am not making much progress. I keep reading and re-reading Long Run Nick's posts about slowing down and running easy to run for life- which is absolutely my goal, but then I get so tired of people telling me they saw me running and making comments about how slow I was going. Most of the time I just smile and say," But I was out there. How far did you run today?" Today really got to me. I am tired and sore because I desperately need new shoes. Mine literally have holes in the heels of them, but I can't afford new ones this close to Christmas. So for someone to tell me their neighbor asked why I run so slow kind of sent me over the edge.

I know I can outlast all these people, but I don't understand why people can't be more supportive. I have none. The only family I have are my dad who doesn't care at all and never really talks to me anyway, and my daughter--but she is only 10 and when I say I don't feel like running today-- she tells me to stay home.

I guess I just needed to get that out. I want to get faster, but I know I need to give it time. I was going to run a half in April, but I may not be ready. I may wait until 2009. I know I would be able to handle the distance, but I won't have the speed to have a decent finish. <HR>

WOW!! You are doing great. As far as what other people think--or say/ we can't control that. Hopefully a soothing thought: Most folks spend better than 95%++ of their time wrapped up in themselves--their self talk--their issues. If you come on their radar screen--rest EZ--you won't be on it for long.

A LRN coaching hint: Try varying the distances you run. Some days 3 miles--some 5 and maybe once in awhile 6-7. Nice and easy. Remember walking is authorized. If anybody comments about seeing you walking when you are out running--tell them your coach wants you to walk some. If they have real concerns they can e-mail me. OK? Nick

mrinertia

1,356 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

16. Nov 30, 2007 7:57 AM

in response to: ch37082

There's a few things at play here, some internal some external.

Externally someone made some comments that hurt. It's bound to happen, and not just in running. 95 times out of 100, they're insensitive, not malicious. These people have no idea what you're doing, what it takes or how far you've come. What it all boils down to is who are you doing this for? If you're doing this yourself, the comments of others shouldn't make a lick of difference one way or another. If you're doing this to impress others, you're in for a rough ride.

Internally, you're just frustrated. I get the impression that might be the case whether or not anyone had said anything to you about your speed. Look at how far you've come and how hard you've pushed to get there. Are you as fast as you'd like to be? No, of course not. However with patience and persistence you will be.

Chin up, keep pushing. This is a long journey and there are no shortcuts. What others say matters not. This is about you and what you do to become a better person.

Tamara40

219 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

17. Nov 30, 2007 8:03 AM

in response to: ch37082

Hey girl...I was 37 when I started running...I just turned 40 and I ran a marathon on my 40th birthday a few weeks ago! I run about that same as you. I usually average somewhere between 13 and 14. There was a guy that hooked up with me at mile 5 and ran with me the entire time...he was 23 years old, and he WALKED while I ran. I ran the entire time without stopping. He would occasionally run, but basically my run was the same as his walk. During my training I would worry about my pace, but I started paying attention to Nick and his posts and I realized that it really doesn't matter. I've had a few comments about being slow, especially my marathon finish time which was 6 hours and 5 mins. There were nearly 4000 people running, and there were 200 people BEHIND me at the finish line. The point is, when I crossed that finish line it didn't matter. The boy that hooked up with me hugged me and told me that I was his rock and he kept pace b/c of ME and he wouldn't have finished without me. So there you have it.

I know it can be discouraging b/c I can't find running partners very easily and most of the time I'm alone and when I get discouraged there is no one there to push me along. I did my marathon training alone too. I got a TON of support from this forum so always come back here. Sometimes virtual friends are better than friends with skin on.

You are doing great! And as far as the dumb ***** who make those dumb *** comments, well...they're dumb ***** and don't deserve your energy. The negative energy you are sending them is energy you could be using during those 5 milers!!

runcheffyrun

70 posts since
Dec 15, 2007

18. Nov 30, 2007 8:05 AM

in response to: ch37082

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Long Run Nick:
WOW!! You are doing great. As far as what other people think--or say/ we can't control that. Hopefully a soothing thought: Most folks spend better than 95%++ of their time wrapped up in themselves--their self talk--their issues. If you come on their radar screen--rest EZ--you won't be on it for long.

A LRN coaching hint: Try varying the distances you run. Some days 3 miles--some 5 and maybe once in awhile 6-7. Nice and easy. Remember walking is authorized. If anybody comments about seeing you walking when you are out running--tell them your coach wants you to walk some. If they have real concerns they can e-mail me. OK? Nick

<HR>

WE LOVE YOU NICK! You are everyone's " Running Dad"....lol. I took you with me in my head this morning on my 3 mile run, I got frustrated because my shoes came untied and cost me some time, but then I remembered ' There is no Time Clock, only your Time when you run" and instantly relaxed and had a great run.... You inspire so many of us, and I am proud to say that I am Coached By YOU! Quicheya34, listen to this man, he is spot on, and soon you will be cruising by the self doubters club, with a smile in your heart, AND on your face!

Best,
Cheffy

tklep

94 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

19. Nov 30, 2007 8:09 AM

in response to: ch37082

How can they even tell how slow you are running unless they are running with you? Those people are just stupid and don't listen to them.

You also need to give yourself a xmas gift of new shoes. You won't be running 5 miles a day if you get an injury bcz your shoes are so worn out. Go to Kohls or DSW, you will be able to find a good deal on shoes at both of those places. I usually buy my shoes at DSW and the last pair I got happened to be on clearance and I got them for $30. You deserve a new pair.

GeekRunner081

118 posts since
Jan 6, 2006

20. Nov 30, 2007 8:14 AM

in response to: ch37082

Your neighbors make rude comments because they are jerks. It has nothing to do with anything you've done, except perhaps that they are jealous because they don't run so they try to belittle your progress. You on the other hand, are a running goddess and a much nicer person then the neighbors are.

ekweather

13 posts since
Nov 7, 2003

21. Nov 30, 2007 8:19 AM

in response to: ch37082

You are doing amazing!! I always tell people who look at my running accomplishments and weight loss, I started on an exercise bike for 20 minutes a day and couldn't run and entire mile. Everyone has to start somewhere.

They win if you give up!!

macd019

535 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

22. Nov 30, 2007 8:35 AM

in response to: ch37082

You have made PHENOMENAL progress!!! Don't let a bunch of louts get you down. I don't have any steady support from friends or relatives--it's the people here that keep me going! Do get some new shoes--you've earned them, and you don't need an injury. My faves were on clearance at Famous Footwear, of all places--last year's models work just fine! Keep going--YOU ROCK!

Guest

23. Nov 30, 2007 8:56 AM

in response to: ch37082

PLEASE do not give up ... I was at that point about five years ago, and got upset because I was only running a 14-minute mile, so I quit. Then I gained 50 pounds and developed crepitus (the precursor to arthritis) in BOTH of my knees. Needless to say, if I had only listened to everyone saying that speed doesn't matter and that it just comes along when you aren't paying attention, then I wouldn't have this issue. As it stands, I have to start all over.

Please, please, PLEASE ... do not listen to those who feel they have to make fun of your pace. It's like you said, What are THEY doing? At least you're out there. I;m sure you've heard the saying "Misery loves company" - they're only picking on your pace because they realize that you're actively trying to better yourself and they aren't and they can't stand that.

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

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Heather
~~~W Girl 2007~~~
Admissions Specialist
Mississippi University for Women

Dum spiro spero - While I breathe, I hope

BK49

13 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

24. Nov 30, 2007 9:23 AM

in response to: ch37082

Quichey: You are doing a great job. The fact that you are out there says you have the desire to succeed. Don't let the non-performers discourage you or drag you down. BUT, get a new pair of shoes. Running in new shoes is like going out with a new suit of clothes. You perform better and you feel better about yourself.

patora: Email me please. I have a few questions about Japan that maybe you can answer. Thanks.

Bob

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"If it were any easier, it would be called FOOTBALL!"

Long Run Nick

265 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

25. Nov 30, 2007 10:51 AM

in response to: ch37082

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tamara40:
Hey girl...I was 37 when I started running...I just turned 40 and I ran a marathon on my 40th birthday a few weeks ago! I run about that same as you. I usually average somewhere between 13 and 14. There was a guy that hooked up with me at mile 5 and ran with me the entire time...he was 23 years old, and he WALKED while I ran. I ran the entire time without stopping. He would occasionally run, but basically my run was the same as his walk. During my training I would worry about my pace, but I started paying attention to Nick and his posts and I realized that it really doesn't matter. I've had a few comments about being slow, especially my marathon finish time which was 6 hours and 5 mins. There were nearly 4000 people running, and there were 200 people BEHIND me at the finish line. The point is, when I crossed that finish line it didn't matter. The boy that hooked up with me hugged me and told me that I was his rock and he kept pace b/c of ME and he wouldn't have finished without me. So there you have it.

I know it can be discouraging b/c I can't find running partners very easily and most of the time I'm alone and when I get discouraged there is no one there to push me along. I did my marathon training alone too. I got a TON of support from this forum so always come back here. Sometimes virtual friends are better than friends with skin on.

You are doing great! And as far as the dumb ***** who make those dumb *** comments, well...they're dumb ***** and don't deserve your energy. The negative energy you are sending them is energy you could be using during those 5 milers!!<HR>

Great job!! You go girl. I am happy for you. When is your next marathon--or a you thinking of an ultra marathon? Nick (:

techgirl321

87 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

26. Nov 30, 2007 11:27 AM

in response to: ch37082

I just want everyone to know how much I loved reading this thread even though I was not the OP.
Everyone is so encouraging and inspiring. These are things that all new runners need to hear once in a while.
I cant say anything more than what has already been said though I wish I could.
Quicheya34- I just hope you take their words to heart. I know I have!

Jess

Redrunner4

50 posts since
Sep 27, 2007

27. Nov 30, 2007 12:09 PM

in response to: ch37082

I am impressed. I think your base looks great. I didn't start running 5 miles till years of running. But I would focus on your total time and not the number of miles.

Yu are doing over an hour of continuous aerobic exercise.
Not many people can say that. Focus on time and distance/speed will follow.

Keep up the good work.

Irish Patty

296 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

28. Nov 30, 2007 12:11 PM

in response to: ch37082

Quicheya
I want to echo what has already been said. I do, however, have a question. Did you wonder why that neighbor relied that remark to you? I would have. I don't always respond quickly but as I mull over things, I would have come up with quite a few responses. Some have already been said. If I seem so slow, how fast can they go for 5 miles? Do they run 5 miles? Shorter distances it's easy to go fast, but when going for endurance one needs to slow down or one will have to stop. Next time a neighbor or someone says something like that stop them and ask them why they are saying it. Are you trying to hurt me? I've been working hard to improve my health and lose some weight. Are you resentful of that? Are you doing this to hurt me, because you must know it does? Did you stick up for me?
Let them know they can't walk over you with their words. If you throw it back to them, not nastily, but showing that their behavior is unacceptable. They will be ashamed even if they don't say it. They may even respect you more. You never know what their motivation is, but you can change how it affects you.
Others have mentioned that doing the same mileage day in and day out will get you in a rut. To improve speed wise shorten one of your runs and do some speedwork. Add it in gradually so your body can adjust. With any change it's best to do it gradually and cut back somewhere until your body can handle it.
Btw I have asthma, but not exactly overweight. I could lose a few pounds, of course most people think that. I run slow, sometimes 12:30 pace, sometimes slower. I've been running for years. My asthma keeps me back, but it would be pretty bad if I didn't run at all. I'm not ashamed of my speed. My competitive nature wishes I were faster, but I'm not and I have to accept it. I love that I run at whatever speed I go.
Great job on running, on the weight loss and on the lifestyle change. Get your daughter out with you. Make it something she would like. Run early in the morning when there isn't anyone out yet. Except, of course, other crazies like us.

Good luck,
Patty

ch37082

8 posts since
May 27, 2007

29. Nov 30, 2007 7:55 PM

in response to: ch37082

Hey everyone,
I read all your responses at work today, but I was not able to post until I got home. I was completely overwhelmed by the level of support and kindness from you all. It actually made me cry. I slept in this morning instead of going for my 4 a.m. run. I may take tomorrow off too just to relax, and then Sunday I will go for a long run in my new shoes. I stopped by the running store on the way home from work and got my Christmas present to myself.

I tihnk I have gotten so caught up in watching the HRM and seeing how many calories I can burn to get the weight off faster that I lost sight of why I was really doing it.

I used to run years ago but gave it up for various reasons. Back then, I would go out for a 10 mile run and didn't consider it a failure if I walked. It helped me get through it.I need to get back to the feeling of running because I love it-- not because I need to lose weight-- but for the sheer pleasure of it. When I run Sunday, I will leave the HRM at home.

Thanks again for all the encouragement. You have no idea how much it meant to me today.

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