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Click to view MileRunnerDD's profile Pro 183 posts since
Apr 22, 2006

Aug 1, 2006 8:55 AM

Food consumption vs exercise

Hello

I recently came home from a vaction in Europe. I am ashamed to say I forgot about running, and took in all the beauty of the city's and didn't let my diet get in the way of a good time. In other words, I had a coke almost every day( it was one of the only drinks served cold in the part I visited, and its hot there, too) and icecream whenever I felt like it. I also had "chocolate nightmare" cheesecakes, and banana splits, that, despite having bananas in them, where one of the most unhealthy things I ate on the vacation. I completly stuffed myself.

When I came home and forced myself to do the task I had been dreading, stepping on the scale, I surprised to find that I had lost a half pound. I did do a lot of walking, and some biking, but I had no idea I would lose weight. From what you have heard, did you think that this is not out of the ordinary?

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Click to view kxs's profile Amateur 37 posts since
Jun 28, 2006
1. Aug 1, 2006 9:00 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
Im fortunate enough to have a best friend who lives in Paris and I go often ( I live in US now)...and when there I do try to get out of the city to trail run a bit (though its part of the fun, not obsessive about getting runs in) but other than that I walk everywhere and eat anything I please...and stay the same or lose even...
I do not want to get into an argument about the american unhealthy way of life, but I do think based on the areas I have seen, many towns and cities here are not really walking friendly....many roads are too dangerous to walk on, no siedewalks, etc, it just seems easier to get around on foot in cities in other countries I have traveled too, also I notice portion sizes tend to be smaller in other countries...
again Im NOT american bashing or starting an argument! Im just sayin'....is all...
sounds like you had a super holiday!
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. Aug 1, 2006 9:31 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
Walking is a great form of exercise. You'll probably find that they use a lot less sugar in their "sweets" too.

People in the US don't walk simply because their towns and cities tend not to be built for walking.

I've been fortunate enough to live in New York and San Francisco, two walking cities where owning a car has been unnecessary.
Click to view pichburg's profile Pro 133 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
4. Aug 1, 2006 9:45 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
"People in the US don't walk simply because their towns and cities tend not to be built for walking"

I live in the Midwest and it is rare that you live in an area that has stores, etc that are accesible via walking. I love to be able to walk to the Starbucks, grocery store, etc but I wasn't always able to do that due to the town that I lived in. When I was training for the Avon 3 day walk for breast cancer I walked home from work one day so that I could get a long mileage walk in and it was terrible since many of the streets did not even have sidewalks! America needs to realize that it needs to be made more friendly for bikers and walkers-especially if gas prices stay so high!

I had a similar experience when I went to New Orleans (pre-Katrina) and ate and drank A LOT! But we walked everywhere, so I did not gain any weight.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Aug 1, 2006 9:50 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
I'm sure walking has a lot to do with it but I think idle time also has a large influence. I suspect that while on vacation, you didn't have the time to stop for coffee break every morning and afternoon so you missed out on regular 'snacks'. Probably equally true in the evenings. You were likely out on the town and, while you may have had drinks and perhaps something to eat, you were likely dancing on the table tops etc. Very different from sitting in front of a TV or reading a book and having your regular evening 'snack'.

There is an old expression "Idle Hands Are The Devil's Tools" and the devil likes to build waistlines.

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Click to view cipher057's profile Pro 180 posts since
Feb 20, 2003
6. Aug 1, 2006 9:54 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
quote:<HR>Originally posted by bigapplepie:
Walking is a great form of exercise. You'll probably find that they use a lot less sugar in their "sweets" too.

People in the US don't walk simply because their towns and cities tend not to be built for walking.

I've been fortunate enough to live in New York and San Francisco, two walking cities where owning a car has been unnecessary.
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That doesn't explain why Canadians as a whole are a lot slimmer than Americans. We have the same type of cities that don't encourage walking. When I was in Chicago a couple of years ago, the first thing I noticed was that everyone was a lot bigger than people back home. Perhaps it's because we pay more for food?
Click to view nycrunnr's profile Pro 73 posts since
Jun 17, 2006
7. Aug 1, 2006 9:59 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
This is so interesting because I just returned yesterday from a long vacation in Europe and I had the same fear about weighing myself, but I actually didn't gain anything. I did try to run while in Europe, but other than London and Venice, I felt like the cities were not jogger/runner friendly. In Rome people were looking at me like I was criminal on the run and the dogs were not exactly friendly, so I had to cut back a lot on my running because I didn't feel that safe. But I also ate terribly! I had rich meals for dinner and treated myself to lots of gelato and dessert type foods. Every morning I had a cappucino or two and a real croissant!!! Everything tasted amazing, but in the back of my mind I was pretty stressed out about my training and weight. When I got home, I found out I hadn't gained weight, but maintained???

As for the walking, we did walk a ton, but I live in New York and walk a ton here too! So it's a mystery to me...when I'm home if I even look at a croissant or donut I gain weight... seriously, I gain by osmosis...lol! But I think the biggest difference was actually portions. A bowl of pasta in Italy is like a half-serving here and the croissants I indulged in were much small than, say, a bagel with cream cheese here. The most important lesson I learned the past few weeks is that portion control is the most biggest thing I can work on for myself. Other than that, the eating thing in Europe is a serious mystery to me. Perhaps, a vacation gift?

On a different note, I don't think Americans dislike walking or exercise. I just don't think most towns and cities are built for that much. Other than New York, Chicago, Boston, and San Francisco, it's tough to think of a place where walking is necessary. I actually think many Americans wish they had a way to get more exercise and the area we should be most concerned about is this whole portion control thing. When I was in Venice I was lucky to use a gym and many of the people working out were friendly, I ended up talking to another runner about how Americans workout and he seemed to think we were all very serious about exercise here. I guess, to me, it seems like the biggest issue is nutrition here?

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Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
8. Dec 26, 2007 3:05 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
Re Canada, perhaps there are cultural differences too.

I was very impressed by the options for exercising when I visited Montreal. I must have cycled 35 miles, of which 3 or 4 miles were on shared roads. Is that a result of better urban planning? Maybe the car isn't king in Canada.

I'm also impressed by the number of Canadians who have active lifestyles. It reminds me somewhat of Switzerland, where everyone seems to be skinny.

The same goes for most of New England. The US States with the lowest obesity rates include New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island and Connecticut.



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Click to view kxs's profile Amateur 37 posts since
Jun 28, 2006
9. Aug 1, 2006 10:33 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
I'm canadian and moved to the US 4 years ago...when I first moved here I was overwhelmed by the amount of choice in the groceries stores compared to in Canada...I'd be fascinated by the different types of junk food...it seems that there is a lot more junk for sale here than in Canada...and I can't speak for all of Canada but where I lived, Montreal and Ottawa, people were very active, but there were so many outdoor fitness fun things to do...but I also spent time in southern ontario where people were not as active....
My friends when they visit from France are always frustrated by having to drive everywhere, as walking is not an option in a lot of places...
and in my town the town council voted against sidewalks recently!
Click to view teetime's profile Legend 459 posts since
Aug 17, 2002
10. Aug 1, 2006 11:05 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
One reason that I'm such a NYC-o-phile is that I really don't like driving and here we walk everywhere. But our walking does involve crowded streets and all too often doesn't feel like pleasant strolling.

And I think that's why I like Europe so much (I love South America but have driven more in the cities I've visited there). There really is a culture of walking and if you have many sights to see (and lot of bags or even a pack to carry) you do end up burning a lot!

I do think "we" (me included!!) focus a lot on our one (or two) daily workout and for some that is a significant effort but even if you are doing a 2.5hr run there are 21.5hrs left to think about.

I second/third the portion comment. Bakeries are the easiest place to see this ... what the French call a cookie, we label here a mini cookie. My friend (visiting from France) had no idea what to do with the plate sized choc chip cookie at a very nice bakery here in the city (said it looked ugly in fact).
Click to view teetime's profile Legend 459 posts since
Aug 17, 2002
11. Aug 1, 2006 11:10 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
Oh and isn't an Italian gelato one or two (yummy) scoops? Compared to a cold stone creamery lb of icecream?
Click to view cipher057's profile Pro 180 posts since
Feb 20, 2003
13. Aug 1, 2006 11:39 AM in response to: MileRunnerDD
quote:<HR>Originally posted by MileRunnerDD:
Thanks to chemicals, McDonald's food tastes the same all over the world)

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The food might be the same, but the McD's restaurants in Italy sure are a lot less cleaner than the ones in Canada. I stepped inside a McD's out of curiosity.
Click to view nycrunnr's profile Pro 73 posts since
Jun 17, 2006
14. Aug 1, 2006 12:22 PM in response to: MileRunnerDD
OMG, I have never had anything like gelato. I am so happy I cannot buy this here! lol...I would be huge! I also went into a McDonalds because it was hard to find a cold drink and I was surprised by how clean and different the menu was. It seems like McC's in London had all sorts of interesting junk on the menu...my husband had to have a Rolo McFlurry!