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Click to view newrunnergirl11's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Jun 27, 2006

Aug 7, 2006 7:14 AM

what burns more calories?

i am running about 3.5-4 miles a day... i have heard that interval training is the best and most effective way to burn the most calories... but i am unsure.. i have heard if you sprint for 10 mins it is just as effective if not more effective than if you jogged for 40 mins... when i am jogging my heart rate is up and i can not talk or hold a conversation with anyone and i am usually running for 30-40 mins. so my question is... what burns the most sprinting for a shorter time or running for a longer time?

any ideas?
Click to view AFewScrewsLoose's profile Pro 169 posts since
May 28, 2006
1. Aug 7, 2006 8:41 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
From what I've heard, but anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

..is that sprinting burns calories fairly quickly, while running or jogging at a slower pace but for longer distance taps into fat stores and begins to burn fat rather than carbs.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Aug 7, 2006 9:25 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
If you can sprint in 10 min. as far as you can run in 40 min. then you would burn the same number of calories. As a general rule, the number of calories you burn is a function of distance only. Speed has no effect (or very little).

There are certainly differences. The size and type of muscle you build as well as the 'endurance structures' you build will all be influenced by the type of workout. But in terms of calories, only distance counts.

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Click to view actonrunner's profile Pro 70 posts since
Dec 30, 2002
3. Aug 7, 2006 9:33 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
Number of calories burned is primarily a function of distance covered.

So, if you run faster, you cover a longer distance in a given time, thereby increasing the calories burned per minute. For example, you will burn (approximately) the same number of calories running 28 minutes @ 7 minutes per mile, as you do runnning 36 minutes @ 9 minutes per mile.

Having said that, you can cover a greater total distance and by running slowly than running fast. I doubt you can "sprint" 10 miles, but jogging 10 miles isn't a big deal. It's also inconceivable that anyone can "sprint" the same distance in 10 minutes as they jog in 40 minutes, so your example is not realistic. A fast runner might do 2.5 miles of total sprints in 10 mintues, if they can run 10 quarter mile sprints at 60 seconds each. Someone that fast would certainly cover more than 5 miles in 40 minutes even at a recovery jog pace.
Click to view runforthechilis's profile Amateur 8 posts since
Aug 7, 2006
4. Aug 7, 2006 12:04 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
Coach here. I teach adult runners, privately and through my RRCA club. My favorite are beginners. Newrunnergirl, if you are running all of your runs at full throttle (can't hold a conversation, heart rate is up), you are running way too fast. You're courting injury. Daily endurance runs (what you are doing) should be run between 65% and 80% of your maximum effort for the distance being run.

Translated: except for speed training (which you shouldn't do yet if you are really new to the sport) your daily runs should be run at conversation pace. If you can hold a conversation, you are running at the correct pace. This is true for runners with plenty of years under their belt and new runners.

Reboot is spot on. Calories burnt are a reflection of the distance you ran.

As for calorie counting, I lost 50 pounds running. I ran every other day (I'm not a kid), adding the calories I used running to my general caloric intake. I then subtracted 500 calories from that total and ate all of those. On days I didn't run, I subtracted the 500 calories only. Those days were tough.

I used Dr. Pribut's website for calories burnt during running.

Took me a year. That was many years ago.

Good Luck,
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Aug 7, 2006 1:37 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
Its very complex.

Walking at low intensity or normal daily activities burn primarily fat but very little.

Low to medium intensity running burns a combination of carbs and fat.

High intensity exercise will rely mainly on carbs during the exercise but the recovery period is much longer and you may burn more fat overall.

Any exercise is better than no exercise. A combination of the three may be the way to go with the emphasis on low to moderate intensity running as outlined by runforthechilis.
Click to view witeowl's profile Amateur 32 posts since
May 12, 2005
6. Aug 7, 2006 6:42 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
What I heard, and what makes sense to me, follows. First, though, you have to understand that burning calories is burning calories is burning calories. It doesn't matter if you're "burning fat" or "burning carbs". If you burn more calories a day than you take in, you will lose weight. Period.

Now, the "myth" of the fat burning zone is as follows, using numbers I'm pulling out of my rear-end to make the explanation more concrete.

John runs at full throttle for 30 minutes which would have burned 380 calories, but he passed out after 15, so he only burned 190 calories.

On the next day, he runs above the "fat burning zone", but below full throttle for 30 minutes, burns 300 calories and walks away really worn out. He wouldn't have wanted to do any more.

On the third day, he runs in the "fat burning zone" for 30 minutes and burns 220 calories. More importantly, he feels so good doing it that he keeps going for another 30 minutes, burning a total of 440 calories.

So... what is more beneficial?

Well, they all have different benefits. Low intensity and high intensity both have their place.

Many people agree, however, that intervals gives you the best of both worlds.


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Click to view dg12002's profile Legend 622 posts since
Aug 26, 2003
8. Aug 8, 2006 1:25 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by actonrunner:
Number of calories burned is primarily a function of distance covered.
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Wrong

Distance is one factor plus intensity. In a 1 an hour of aerobic running slowly you"ll burn a certain amount of calories. Crossing over to the anaerobic or alactic systems the metabolism kicks into overdrive elevating it hours longer
Click to view JavaJen's profile Amateur 37 posts since
Jun 18, 2006
9. Aug 8, 2006 3:04 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dg12:
Wrong

Distance is one factor plus intensity. In a 1 an hour of aerobic running slowly you"ll burn a certain amount of calories. Crossing over to the anaerobic or alactic systems the metabolism kicks into overdrive elevating it hours longer
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So true, dg12. So true.
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
10. Aug 8, 2006 3:19 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dg12:
Wrong

Distance is one factor plus intensity. In a 1 an hour of aerobic running slowly you"ll burn a certain amount of calories. Crossing over to the anaerobic or alactic systems the metabolism kicks into overdrive elevating it hours longer
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Agreed.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
11. Aug 8, 2006 6:22 PM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dg12:
Wrong

Distance is one factor plus intensity. In a 1 an hour of aerobic running slowly you"ll burn a certain amount of calories. Crossing over to the anaerobic or alactic systems the metabolism kicks into overdrive elevating it hours longer
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The calories burned during the run is strictly a function of distance, There is no effect on total calories burned by altering the duration of the run by changing pace. A 5 mile run burns X calories regardless of the pace at which it is run.

The question remains regarding what post exercise burn takes place. Since post exercise caloric burn IS a pumped up metabolism by definition, it simply confuses the issue to even mention metabolism. The post exercise burn must be actually doing something with the energy. Calories are, after all, just a measure of energy and, since energy can neither be created nor destroyed, the post exercise calories that are burned as a result of the exercise must actually manifest themselves in some manner. In effect, the post exercise burn must be used up in producing muscle, or heat or some form of physical activity. It is literally impossible to burn calories and have nothing to show for it.

So, what possible differences could there be in a person who in one instance burns 500 cal (for example) in a 5 mile easy run compared to the same person after a 500 cal, 5 mile tempo run. It is not at all clear that one or the other situation would expend more post exercise energy on tissue building and even if one could make a case for a larger expenditure in one case or the other, it would certainly not be a huge difference. I guess if the tempo run had been sufficiently vigorous to significantly damage muscles etc., then I suppose there could be a larger post exercise burn.

It is likely the tempo run would result in a longer cool down time during which the HR and respiration would be more elevated and I fully expect that a calorimetric measurement would show the post tempo burn to be higher but I would be very surpeised if it was much higher for any significant time.

So, while the post exercise burn of a high intensity exercise can reasonably be expected to burn more, It would not likely make a major difference. For example, both the runs described above burned 500 calories during the run. I would be very surprised if the 'after burn' in either case was more than 10% and, of course, the difference would be even less. Perhaps someone has some real data.

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Click to view TheMountaineer's profile Pro 197 posts since
Mar 13, 2005
12. Aug 9, 2006 6:06 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dg12:
Wrong

Distance is one factor plus intensity. In a 1 an hour of aerobic running slowly you"ll burn a certain amount of calories. Crossing over to the anaerobic or alactic systems the metabolism kicks into overdrive elevating it hours longer
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Yes, but we are not running once we stop.
Click to view JavaJen's profile Amateur 37 posts since
Jun 18, 2006
13. Aug 9, 2006 7:13 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheMountaineer:

Yes, but we are not running once we stop.
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Yes, but our metabolism is elevated for a period of time after we stop running. The higher intensity we were running at, the bigger the metabolism boost during those post-run hours.

This is concept behind using HITT for fat loss (high intensity interval training). Many bodybuilders use this method to get cut before a show. Even the Body For Life program reccommends 20-25mins of this type of running to shed weight. Many times if calorie intake is not adequate, long distance running causes muscle loss as well.

It's old school to think that the only way to lose weight is by increasing mileage. Look at the bodies of long distance runners vs. those of sprinters. Sprinters are able to MAINTAIN their muscle mass while shedding bodyfat. Do sprinters run long distances? No. They sprint. They have quite low bodyfat without racking up the miles.

Something to think about...
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
14. Aug 9, 2006 7:25 AM in response to: newrunnergirl11
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JavaJen:
Yes, but our metabolism is elevated for a period of time after we stop running. The higher intensity we were running at, the bigger the metabolism boost during those post-run hours.

This is concept behind using HITT for fat loss (high intensity interval training). Many bodybuilders use this method to get cut before a show. Even the Body For Life program reccommends 20-25mins of this type of running to shed weight. Many times if calorie intake is not adequate, long distance running causes muscle loss as well.

It's old school to think that the only way to lose weight is by increasing mileage. Look at the bodies of long distance runners vs. those of sprinters. Sprinters are able to MAINTAIN their muscle mass while shedding bodyfat. Do sprinters run long distances? No. They sprint. They have quite low bodyfat without racking up the miles.

Something to think about...
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I think it is mostly wishful thinking to suppose your body continues to burn any significant number of calories for hours after a high intensity workout. Just what is the elevated metabolism doing during this time?

Sprinters produce and maintain muscle because their workouts create a demand for those muscles. They do not produce them as a result of not running long distances.

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