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Click to view mucho apetito's profile Pro 74 posts since
Jan 18, 2006

Aug 30, 2006 3:42 PM

What happened to the "juicing" thread??

It just vanished from my topic list. Was it deleted, and if so, why?
Click to view boosiebutt's profile Pro 101 posts since
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1. Aug 30, 2006 3:56 PM in response to: mucho apetito
I came in once and it was at the top of the list, but when I clicked on it, it took me to a Page Not Found message. Then when I refreshed the Carbo Canteen page, it disappeared entirely. Maybe RazLeopard (I think was the OP) deleted it?
Click to view TheHerbinator's profile Pro 100 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. Aug 30, 2006 8:10 PM in response to: mucho apetito
Too bad. When I first read the thread I intended to post my positive views on juicing but at the time it wasn't convenient for me to post. In fact I found this while looking for it.

Is there any point in doing it now?

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4. Aug 30, 2006 9:29 PM in response to: mucho apetito
quote:<HR>Originally posted by TheHerbinator:
Is there any point in doing it now?<HR>


Absolutely! Please do.

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5. Aug 30, 2006 11:13 PM in response to: mucho apetito
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Iontach:
Absolutely! Please do.

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Well ok, but it was really in response to some other posts. Basically the arguments I see are a lot of people saying its better to eat the fruits and vegetables than to juice them mainly arguing the calories involved in juices. I don't think anyone is arguing against the benefits of fresh fruits and vegetables, the phytochemicals, the enzymes, the antioxidants that you simply don't get from cartoned juices or frozen and cooked vegetables. These only come from living fruits/vegetables; both of which can be attained from eating or drinking them. Supplements and vitamins simply dont cut the mustard when compared to actual foods.

Well, both consuming through juice or through eating whole fruits and vegetables, the benefits are the same with the exception the juice contains no fiber. Other than that, juicing does have it's benefits over eating the vegetable and/or fruit.

One of the main benefits is the amount you're able to consume. I forget exactly what the recommended servings of fresh fruit and vegetables are, (5 or 7 nowadays?) but lot's of people have trouble consuming enough. Some believe the suggested amount falls far below what we really should look to consume.

A glass of carrot juice with some broccoli and maybe some apple is a great way to get a few servings in at once. The calories of course would be the same as eating the servings themselves; so I don't really see the argument for eating versus drinking if you're commited to consume the recommended amount of servings. I think someone might try to make an argument as to satisfying hunger, but thats one thats easily solvable so I wont address it yet. Of course eating 8 servings of oranges would also be highly caloric so you should be careful in your choices as to what you juice if calorie counting is a problem.




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Click to view Evinmeer's profile Pro 92 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Aug 31, 2006 3:05 PM in response to: mucho apetito
I'm not a juicer, but I found this article that I thought might relate.

quote:<HR>Juices 'may cut Alzheimer's risk'

The way to ward off Alzheimer's?
Drinking fruit and vegetable juices frequently may significantly cut the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease, a study suggests.
US researchers followed almost 2,000 people for up to 10 years - providing a powerful set of results.

They found the risk was 76% lower for those who drank juice more than three times a week, compared with those who drank it less than once a week.

The study appears in the American Journal of Medicine.

Diet is a magnet for research because it could offer a relatively inexpensive way to fight a disease that ruins countless lives

Dr Harriet Millward

Alzheimer's is linked to the accumulation of clumps of beta-amyloid protein in the brain.

There is some evidence to suggest that this process may be controlled by the chemical hydrogen peroxide.

Various studies have suggested that polyphenols - chemicals available in many foods - might disrupt these processes and provide some protection against Alzheimer's disease by neutralising the effect of damaging compounds called free radicals.

Fruit and vegetable juices are particularly rich in polyphenols.

Lead researcher Dr Qi Dai, of Vanderbilt University, said: "We found that frequent drinking of fruit and vegetable juices was associated with a substantially decreased risk of Alzheimer's disease.

"These findings are new and suggest that fruit and vegetable juices may play an important role in delaying the onset of Alzheimer's disease."

The research was carried out on Japanese Americans, but researchers said the findings were applicable to the general population.

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Harriet Millward, of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said: "Many scientists believe there is a link between the release of free radicals within the body and early changes to brain cells in people who ultimately go on to develop Alzheimer's disease.

"Since fruit and vegetable juices are rich in antioxidants which 'mop up' free radicals, this interesting piece of research adds weight to this theory."

Dr Millward said previous studies had produced mixed results, and some had suggested the benefits of fruit and vegetables were short lived.

But she said the results of the latest study were significant because it was long-term, and had followed a relatively large group of people.

"Diet almost certainly plays a part in every person's Alzheimer's risk - and diet is a magnet for research because it could offer a relatively inexpensive way to fight a disease that ruins countless lives and costs the NHS more than cancer, stroke and heart disease put together."

Clive Ballard, director of research at the Alzheimer's Society, said fruit and vegetables might also help cut the risk by helping to lower blood pressure, and keep the blood vessels in good order.

Alzheimer's has been linked to poor blood supply to the brain.<HR>
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7. Sep 4, 2006 8:10 AM in response to: mucho apetito
maybe they thought you ment steroids lolol...sorry but I did the first time I saw that...but I have a bodybuilding back ground......