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Click to view emma4rove's profile Amateur 24 posts since
Nov 24, 2004

Jan 20, 2007 4:57 PM

Have i ruined my metabolism?

ok so heres the background...
I'm female, 28 years old, 5'4, and currently weigh 132 pounds.
3 years ago weighing in at 141 pounds i started running and the atkins diet. Initially i lost 8 pounds doing this. I hovered around this weight for about 6 months
Then over about 12-18 months through counting calories (average 1500 per day) and regular 30-35 mile weeks i kept losing and got down to 116 pounds (admittedly that wasnt for too long).
I know that 116 was probarly a bit on the light side for my height and frame and i was very happy at 120ish pounds.
However my weight has gone up since then, mostly due to a really big academic year with loads of stress that kept me from training properly and saw me eating and drinking far too much!
The last month i have made a real effort to up my training and get my weight back to my ideal 120 pounds.
Nothing seems to be working. Over a week i average out at about 1300 calories per day if i am being 'good'. I am running an average of 3-5 miles a day with one interval training day and one longer run (6-7miles) day. I am also doing some strength training and walking.
I have not lost anything. What am i doing wrong?!!!!!?!!!
I feel i am really accurate in my calorie estimation as i track on fitday but enter 90% of the foods as custom so its exactly from the nutritional info on the packet etc. I estimate around 100 calories per mile for my running.
Can anyone suggest why i'm not losing anything? I should be down at least 4-5 pounds over the last month!!!
Did I ruin my metabolism when i got down to 116 pounds?
Click to view JeremyLikness's profile Pro 64 posts since
Oct 10, 2006
1. Jan 20, 2007 5:12 PM in response to: emma4rove
Your body is very resilient so it would be tough to "ruin" your metabolism. Can it slow down? Absolutely. But in years of coaching people to lose fat, I have yet to find anyone who has a metabolism that cannot be kicked into high gear ... except perhaps those with thyroid conditions (something to check for, it impacts a lot of women).

At any rate, while calories is an important part of the equation, another is the quality of calories. Are you making the mistake of keeping fat calories too low? That's a sure-fire way to slow your metabolism. In my experience women can benefit tremendously from having 25 - 30 percent of their total calories from fats (mostly healthy fats, i.e. omega-3, omega-6).

Are you consuming lots of fresh veggies and fruits? These are not only nutrient-dense, but the fiber also lowers the digestion rate of the meal and helps regulate blood sugar, which in turn can help shed extra fat even while eating the same level of calories.

Finally, as much as you may hate to do it, sometimes you need to burn more calories to keep from having to go ridiculously low on calories. I've had to do split sessions in the past (i.e. morning/evening). You don't have to slam yourself - even something as simple as setting the treadmill to maximum incline and then walking for a period of time can help burn extra calories.

Depending on how serious you are, investing in the right software can help do. Instead of guessing what your metabolism is (which is what fitDay does) software like DietPower will actually figure out what it REALLY is based on your inputs over a period of time. With that information, you'll know exactly what you need to do to change things up for the better.

I had one client come to me who was a male weighing 220 pounds and could not lose weight on 1600 calories a day. By adding split sessions and changing his nutrition to increase healthy fats and fiber, he was dropping 1 - 2 pounds per week at 2200 calories per day within 3 weeks.

It can be done!

Jeremy
Click to view Buddy Duck's profile Amateur 38 posts since
Nov 17, 2004
2. Jan 20, 2007 5:33 PM in response to: emma4rove
Emma, I don't think you're doing anything wrong at all. 5'4" and 132 lbs. is not exactly obese. You are exercising regularly and being careful about what you eat. That's great. It's what everyone should do.

You say if you're being good, you average about 1300 calories/day. How often are you not being good? That could be your problem.

You're averaging 20-30 miles/week. You might lose more weight if you upped your mileage to 30-40, but can you sustain that level? If you do it for the short term and lose weight, you probably will regain the weight once your mileage goes back to 20.

I don't think anyone can ruin their metabolism. Your body will react to the demands you put upon it and the calories you consume in predictable ways. You may need to change the amount you exercise or eat to lower your weight, but that may not necessarily be the best thing for you.

Maintain a healthy lifestyle and don't worry about numbers.

Keep running and enjoying it. I wish I were as smart as you when I was 28.
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
4. Jan 20, 2007 9:21 PM in response to: emma4rove
You haven't ruined your metabolism, you are just not eating enough to maintain it.

It takes energy to burn fat. A lot of energy. More than twice as much energy as it takes to burn carbs or protein.

Calories = energy.

Try upping the calories to 1,800 a day for 6-8 weeks and see what happens.

You won't gain weight eating less than 2,100 calories a day.
Click to view muzicgrl's profile Legend 220 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Jan 20, 2007 11:23 PM in response to: emma4rove
Part of your problem is that 120 is on the super low end of the BMI scale for your height (116 was underweight or on the verge of underweight depending on the calculator you use). It is entirely possible that your body resists being 120 because it is too small for your particular frame (Unless you have a small frame 120 is getting pretty light). It is really hard to lose weight when you are trying to get down to a super low BMI.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Jan 21, 2007 9:13 AM in response to: emma4rove
There is not likely anything wrong with your metabolism. Your metabolism is the sum total of all your living processes. It is impossible to alter any aspect of your metabolism significantly and have it go unnoticed. The very first part of your metabolism to "slow down" under conditions of privation is your reproductive cycle and that does not go unnoticed. Virtually any significant change (except one) in your metabolism is very obvious and usually has a medical name since it is a condition that is not healthy.

The single (and only) aspect of your metabolism that you can easily change is your physical activity level. You can slow or speed your metabolism by altering the amount of exercise you get. Your body cannot "get used" to fewer calories nor can it "hoard" everything it gets. Darwin has guaranteed that we all fully utilize all the calories we get and waste none. There is simply no way to get more energy out of what we eat nor is it possible to hoard anything additional from normal. The normal condition is to extract 100% of the energy from food and to use or hoard everything. There is no room for improvement.

There is also not any difference in the weight or fat producing quality of any calorie. A calorie is a measure of energy. All calories are exactly the same in terms of their effect on weight. Certainly, some forms of calories are healthier than others, and some forms may affect your hunger in different ways and for different times, but all calories have exactly the same effect on weight.

The bottom line is that the ONLY thing that affects (fat) weight is the caloric balance equation. Eat more calories than you burn and you store the surplus as fat. Eat fewer calories than you burn and the shortage is made up from fat reserves.

The above may not be what you want to hear but any product that suggests it can ignore this fundamental is an outright scam. Stick with your careful measurements and Fitday. It will work eventually. Daily deviations from your "true" weight are common due to water retention etc.

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Click to view vhm1's profile Pro 68 posts since
Jul 23, 2006
7. Dec 26, 2007 4:06 AM in response to: emma4rove
Due to some behaviors of mine as a teen/young adult, I asked a doctor friend of mine about "ruined metabolism." http://Note I did not ask about this because I was trying to lose weight. I asked because I am freezing cold all of the time. My doctor friend assured me that permanently damaging your metabolism by past behaviors just does not happen.

And my past behaviors were much more extreme than you getting down to 116 pounds.




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Click to view MissPratt's profile Expert 52 posts since
Jan 21, 2007
8. Jan 21, 2007 1:25 PM in response to: emma4rove
Keep up the consistency with running. Give it a couple more months. As we get older there is a very small but gradual decrease in our metabolic rate every year. Google it if you want exacts. Sounds like you are already doing a little weight training, which will help. NOT heavy weights (=bulk) just lighter weights with high reps. With school etc...and probably lack of adequate sleep, the body is in more of a stress state and may be holding on to some calories to protect you. You are healthy, focus on that for now. Good luck with school!
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
9. Jan 21, 2007 2:18 PM in response to: emma4rove
Again, I must emphasis, your body cannot switch to suddenly "hold onto" some calories - at least, not any more than it does under all conditions. To suggest your body can somehow switch to a more conserving mode implies that at other times it wastes calories. Wasting calories simply does not happen. Such a wasting of calories would imply food passing through your system undigested. Certainly, there are medical conditions which are characterized by an inability to absorb certain nutrients but they are serious medical conditions. Normal people simply do not "waste" calories.

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Click to view runnerparris's profile Legend 365 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
11. Jan 21, 2007 7:21 PM in response to: emma4rove
If you haven't tried already, stick to several small meals rather than larger ones.

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Click to view debbiern04's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Dec 10, 2006
12. Jan 21, 2007 7:33 PM in response to: emma4rove
I agree with bigapplepie. You are definitely not eating enough calories. 1300 calories is fine on days that you don't run but on those days that you run, you need to eat those calories burned. So, if you run 5 miles and are figuring that is 500 calories, you should be eating 1800 calories for that day. Your body isn't getting enough fuel, so it is storing what you eat instead of burning it. You should eat frequent meals too which will also boost your metabolism. Once your body knows that you will not deprive it of energy (food), it will burn whatever you eat. Keep it healthy though. Include protein, complex carbs, and fat at each meal and have snacks in between meals. Strength training to build a little muscle will also boost your metabolism.

-There's plenty of time for rest when you're dead-
Click to view GreenEggsAndHam's profile Legend 314 posts since
Jun 4, 2006
13. Jan 22, 2007 12:46 PM in response to: emma4rove
quote:<HR>Originally posted by emma4rove:
good info people.
but i'm still confused.
bigapplepie - how can i up my calories and still lose weight? It seems to me that if i strictly stick to a loss of 1000 caloires per day, then by the end of the week i should have lost a kilo?
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I don't know what it is, or why it happens, but I can say I was doing extreme dieting (1300 Cal while running 35 mpw and biking 65 mpw). Lost weight. Stopped. Held on no matter how I reduced my Calories. Stopped paying attention to what I ate. Gained 4 lb, then lost 4 lb, then held steady. (This was all over a 4 mo period for the loss, 3 months for the holding steady, and 2 months since I've dieted)
I don't know why. But I haven't dieted in a minute and I'm fairly steady... maybe up a little bit.
Going to get my metabolism tested to determine the right amount to eat. It's only like $40, maybe you should as well? Might help.