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12 Replies Last post: Mar 10, 2007 9:47 PM by Jake the Snake036  
Click to view cmeade321's profile Rookie 7 posts since
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Mar 6, 2007 3:35 PM

Ideal diet?

I am considering cutting out carbs from my diet, and eating only veggies, dairy, poultry, fish and meat. I guess Atkins diet is what I am thinking.

Any ideas on how this will affect my running? Has anyone tried this?
Click to view totaleffort's profile Legend 280 posts since
Feb 10, 2006
1. Mar 6, 2007 5:30 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I never did Atkins per se but did radically reduce my carb intake over a period of about a year.Just one by one gave up certain carb foods for non or low carb foods. I had been a traditional carb based runner for 35 years but decided a change was in order.

Basically went from about 400 - 500+ G of carbs a day to current level of around 25 G a day . Now eat meat, bacon , eggs , fish , berries, walnuts , P.B., and few veggies like cauliflower - broccoili - spinach . Drink only water . Lost 34 pounds from 179 to 145 . 5 ' 9 " male.

I had no problem at all and vital medical stats that were good anyway got better. Over time went from 35 MPW to 45 -50 . Have done about 100 races in last 3 years anywhere up to a HM .Feel great , running fine and times improved quite a bit over 3 years ago. I only take off maybe 15 days a year and recovery is very good. Only injury to speak of was a tight hamstring.

Good luck !
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2. Mar 6, 2007 6:26 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I wouldnt go so far as to call this an ideal diet...whole grain carbs are good for you. Dairy and meat on the other hand can be full of artery clogging fat. Nobody will argue that lots of veggies and fruit are good for you (but lots of them also contain carbs).
Click to view totaleffort's profile Legend 280 posts since
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4. Dec 26, 2007 4:12 AM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by cmeade321:
Well I think I would eat more poultry and fish. I am not big on bacon and meat per se.
I would just eliminate all carbs from my diet and stick to dairy, poultry and fish.

Total effort did you ever have any issues with digestion on your diet plan?
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No digestive problems at all. Not sure if you are thinking about fiber issues but I get plenty from the nuts / berries / veggies .

BTW the AP released a report today about a recent study done by a Stanford researcher comparing Atkins, Zone, Ornish and Learn ( simliar to low fat high carb U.S guidelines) diets.Basically two low carb diets vs. two high carb diets .

You might want to check it out. Christopher Gardner was the lead author of the study and Lindsey Tanner of the A.P. ( Chicago ) did the release that I read .The subjects lost more weight on Atkins and had slightly better blood pressure / cholesterol.


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Click to view Heksie's profile Amateur 31 posts since
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5. Mar 7, 2007 11:01 AM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I have been eating low-carb foods for about 7 months now. I have lost about 4" around the waist (lost a little weight, but that was never the intention) and have more energy now than I ever did before. No headaches, bloating, etc. either.

Most of my carbs come from lots of veggies and fruit (the only exclusions are potatoes and bananas and quite frankly I haven't missed them at all!) as well as low GI whole grains such as brown rice, whole wheat pasta/breads. etc. Proteins come from fish, skinless chicken, nuts, eggs and lowfat dairy products.

I figure that I need most of my energy in the AM and early PM so I try to eat most of my carbs before noon. But then, what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone else, specially if people mainly workout/run late PM or evening...

Enjoy and experiment!
H
Click to view Jake the Snake036's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Mar 7, 2007
6. Mar 7, 2007 3:32 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I am completely against complete restriction against any one food, and honestly, believe your plan to completely eliminate carbs is not a good idea. RUNNERS NEED CARBS TO PERFORM!!! They are the body's #1 energy source!
The belief that carbs are evil is completely ridiculous. They are a very important part to any balanced diet (if you don't believe me, check out the food pyramid), and can provide essentially nutrients and minerals in addition to energy. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with eating carbs, and doing so will not cause one to gain weight, or even prevent one from losing weight.
I know my quality of life would decrease if I never allowed myself a delicious turkey sandwich on toast w/w or a steamy bowl of tasty oatmeal... quality carbs are not the enemy; you're never going to hear someone complain that they are obese because they ate toast and oatmeal (wow, just saying that in my head makes me laugh it is so rediculous).

Just my two cents,
God Bless,
the Snake
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7. Mar 7, 2007 3:57 PM in response to: cmeade321
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All carbs are not created equally. The only way I could get off cholesterol lowering drugs (I'm not overweight - 5'4" about 130 # - exercise regularly) was to eliminate animal products from my diet. Not easy, but better than drugs. I eat lots of whole grains, beans, fruits and veggies, nuts,and avocados, some soy and I avoid the processed foods, trans fats, and simple sugars. (Most of the time - I'm only human - sometimes a girl's just gotta have a steak ) If I eat junk food, I really feel tired and sluggish the next day. If it weren't for the cholesterol thing, (down to 211 with the drugs, down to 172 without the drugs and eliminating the animal products) I think I'd do the South Beach diet because it focuses on the "good" carbs and "good" fats and mostly lean meats and cheeses.
Just my 2 cents.
Click to view wetfeetl33t's profile Pro 91 posts since
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8. Mar 7, 2007 4:34 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
Why remove all carbs. Carbs are just as important as the other macronutrients (i.e. fat, protein). A better idea might be to cut out all refined carbs (like sugars, syrups, highly refined grain/white bread, etc) and rich, high fat foods. I've had very bad luck by removing carbs completely, but I can usually get much leaner by aiming for less processed carbohydrate like fruits, starchy veggies and whole grains, and choosing good proteins.

Just my 5c, but cutting all carbs from your diet seems a bit extreme, and possibly unhealthy.

But yes, lowfat dairy and lean poultry, fish and meat are excellent sources of protein. There must be at least 15,000 different tasty meals that can be made with fish...
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9. Mar 10, 2007 2:20 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jake the Snake:
I am completely against complete restriction against any one food, and honestly, believe your plan to completely eliminate carbs is not a good idea. RUNNERS NEED CARBS TO PERFORM!!! They are the body's #1 energy source!
The belief that carbs are evil is completely ridiculous. They are a very important part to any balanced diet (if you don't believe me, check out the food pyramid), and can provide essentially nutrients and minerals in addition to energy. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with eating carbs, and doing so will not cause one to gain weight, or even prevent one from losing weight.
I know my quality of life would decrease if I never allowed myself a delicious turkey sandwich on toast w/w or a steamy bowl of tasty oatmeal... quality carbs are not the enemy; you're never going to hear someone complain that they are obese because they ate toast and oatmeal (wow, just saying that in my head makes me laugh it is so rediculous).

Just my two cents,
God Bless,
the Snake
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Actually, my mother suffered from a weight problem her whole life. She lived on a farm in Ohio during the depression. And, if you wanted a second helping of meat you had to eat a piece of bread with it.

She will tell you that she knew that bread was making her fat, but she couldn't help herself. So, it is not totally ridiculous.
Click to view Jake the Snake036's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Mar 7, 2007
10. Mar 10, 2007 2:47 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I respectfully disagree with you. You say your mother gained weight because she ate bread; I would be willing to argue the second portions in general were the nemesis.
I still cannot believe all the carb-haters on a running forum. Healthy, whole grain carbohyrates are some of the best fuels a runner can choose; they offer a blend of nutrients and energy that no other food can boast. Why oh why are so many runner carb-phobic?
Click to view marigold7's profile Amateur 30 posts since
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11. Mar 10, 2007 4:22 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
I think the best diet to have is one that focuses on removing highly processed carbohydrates from it, keep the whole grains, oatmeal, rice etc. -Get rid of the refined white flour treats, loaded with chemicals and other bad stuff. I eat tons of dark leafy veggies, orange fruits and veggies, beans, quinoa, jasmine rice, red millet, bean soups, cheese (goat and a little cheddar), lean meats, milk and a variety of other good nutrient dense foods (most contain carbohydrates). Organic and clean. I have a treat once in a while like a organic chocolate bar, a burger, or other favorite; however once in a while means like once a month. I reward myself for good and healthy habbits with beautiful flowers, or a new piece of work out gear not so much treats. You will have better luck improving your running and weight with healthy eating focusing on getting maximum nutrition, and diversity in training like adding a swim class to your training. Carbs fuel your workouts!
Click to view Jake the Snake036's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Mar 7, 2007
12. Mar 10, 2007 9:47 PM in response to: cmeade321
Re: Ideal diet?
Bravo Marigold, Bravo indeed