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50 Replies Last post: May 30, 2007 2:55 AM by Melissa555   Go to original post 1 2 3 4 Previous Next
Click to view mh1982's profile Pro 151 posts since
May 22, 2007
45. May 25, 2007 2:51 PM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
sigh. okay. against my better judgement, i'm joining this discussion. (why is there a little voice in the back of my head that's screaming "don't go back to college! no! no! noooooo!")

the silly thing is that just about everyone here has something useful to say. several posters that shall remain nameless have done it in -ahem- quite a rude manner, but what can you do!

personally, i'm not a vegetarian - i eat dairy, eggs and seafood. but i stopped eating other food because i was living out of the country and a lot of friends were getting sick; when i stopped, i felt healthier. that is not to say that others would feel the same way.

i went to a small liberal arts college for women that was very liberal, and a lot of typically "liberal" lifestyle choices (NOT to say that everyone who is vegetarian, or vegan, or anything else controversial that i might mention is liberal... ) were prevalent. in fact, most of them were very faddish there. despite wonderful vegetarian and vegan options (i believe it was rated #1 in the country for veggie/vegan food), i knew many "vegetarians"/"vegans" who ate horrible diets. i also knew many meat eaters who did. i knew many people with eating disorders. however, that was completely separate (as far as i could tell) from the bad diets - the vegetarians who ate badly looked unhealthy; they had no energy, their hair and skin were dull ... many of them were quite overweight, in fact. same with the meat eaters. many of the people i knew with eating disorders were obsessive about the "healthiness" of what they ate, whether their plate had meat or not. the issue with eating disorders has very little, if anything, to do with whether or not you eat meat, and more to do with having a mental illness that makes you think you are not healthy/thin enough, no matter what the physical evidence suggests. For this reason, many anorexics/bulimics tend to obsess about nutrition, calories in/out, etc. yes, many of them, in this obsession with "good" nutrition, hear about the health benefits of vegetarian diets and stop eating meat, but that doesn't mean that all or most or even a significant portion of vegetarians have the same illness.

as to what is better, there is no best diet for people as a whole, in my opinion. i think veggie diets are better for the environment, yes. however, if i ever feel that i need to start eating more meat to be healthy, i will do so. i have very serious concerns about hormones, etc., and would do my best to eat organic,etc., etc.

as to the buddhist diet, well, i think there is a good point there. i actually eat and cook a huge amount of indian/buddhist/vedic foods, and it is largely because i find that cuisine from that part of the world tends to provide the most balanced nutrition for the vegetarian diet (not to mention that it's so tasty!).

as for meat eaters - i have no problem with it whatsoever, and i find it upsetting when people hijack what could be an enlightening and interesting discussion into arguing over who is stupider, or less evolved, etc. based upon their eating habits. let's just say that that title belongs to the people who eat **** (meaty or not), sit on their *** all day and die young of cardiac disease and diabetes. i would guess that there's no one one this board that fits, but i'm sure i've flushed him/her out if so to come flame me i'm going to go hide back in the newbie forum now.

btw, was i the only one who was trying to figure out how vegetarian college women were so prone to erectile dysunction?
Click to view teetime's profile Legend 459 posts since
Aug 17, 2002
46. May 25, 2007 10:16 PM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
quote:<HR>Originally posted by reboot:
The cold facts are however, a large proportion of young females who practise vegetarianism have a significant dysfunctional eating pattern.
<HR>


Tee hee. Pluheez Reboot. Cold hard facts?! You are not a social scientist, clearly. A large number of young women (and increasingly young men) have disordered eating. The various ways these individuals manage and control their diets vary greatly. In fact, with the increased popularity of low carb diets and the wide spread notion that carbs=fat=bad I am sure there are increasing numbers of people who restrict these foods more than meats. You cited a paper or two ... in order for something to be an accepted theory or "fact" I'd say about 100 more studies and papers are needed.

For over a year you have been making these comments about young women, their diets, and their problems. It's creepy and I highly doubt you have any expertise in the area of adolescent female development (and no, google is the same as expertise).
Click to view teetime's profile Legend 459 posts since
Aug 17, 2002
47. May 25, 2007 10:26 PM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
And reboot, while I by no means feel that my own story says anything about the population at large let me share my history.

In my early teens I was full of idealism ... considered being a vet, strongly believed world peace was possible, wanted to end homelessness and hunger, and decided it was cruel to eat meat. I didn't eat meat from 13-18 when I entered college, and started down a rather unhealthy road to weight loss. During that time it was bagels and granola that scared me the most and that I avoided at all cost. I actually started eating meat again during the very time when my eating behaviors were least healthy and/or normal.

Now I eat everything but certainly respect the choices of others (and even admire them at times).
Click to view all the college women's profile Rookie 1 posts since
May 26, 2007
48. May 26, 2007 11:40 AM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
quote:<HR>Originally posted by reboot:


Perhaps if the young vegetarian females...
<HR>


Dude, you're over 60 years old! What's with the obsession with college-age women?
Click to view Melissa555's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Apr 2, 2007
49. May 30, 2007 2:48 AM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
Reboot,

I always love reading your posts! You rock.
Click to view Melissa555's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Apr 2, 2007
50. May 30, 2007 2:55 AM in response to: runbei066
Re: Salad Wars
Reboot,

P.S. Don't get me wrong. I don't believe half the **** you write, but you definitely spark interesting strings.