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Click to view gostate94's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Oct 6, 2007

Jun 18, 2007 2:30 PM

Early AM Long Runs...what to eat???

I'm currently training for my 1st mary. I'm not a morning person, but decided to get out "early" this weekend to do my long run (14 mi). It was warm and a bit muggy so I brought along gu, water and gatorade. I had a banana and a gatorade before I headed out.

It seemed that the humidity got the best of me. I started to feel very tired at mile 11 even though I took frequent walk breaks.

I was wondering if it had anything to do with what I didn't eat before my run. Do you eat something substantial before a long run?
Click to view dpar's profile Pro 85 posts since
Dec 11, 2005
1. Jun 18, 2007 5:46 PM in response to: gostate94
I am only semi-experienced at running in the 15-20 mile range but have found that a banana and a couple cups of coffee prior to a run is fine for me. I take water with me and am now using a gel every 4 miles. Additionally, make sure you slow down from what you normally run. If your midrun 6-8 miler is at 9mpm then your long run should be 10mpm or slower, especially when you are jsut getting into it. Walk breaks are fine.

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Click to view florie's profile Legend 213 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Jun 19, 2007 12:56 PM in response to: gostate94
I take 1/2 of a protein/fibre/carb shake with water. It will substain me for up to 3 hours, as well as taking e-load while i am running, plus water......and a jel.
Click to view CoreyH's profile Expert 55 posts since
Jul 5, 2007
3. Jun 19, 2007 2:37 PM in response to: gostate94
I'd concentrate as much if not more on the night before. That's where that 10+ mile fuel is going to come from, not the gels and gatorade (which I use on all my long runs too) -- the gels and gatorade will help your blood glycogen and prevent you from feeling hungry, but muscle and liver glycogen which is critical in long runs is going to come from the previous 24-48 hours worth of meals.

Make sure you are having a carb focused meal (65% by calorie) for dinner and I'd probably go with some toast or something before bed too. A friend of mine who does high mileage training and ultramarathons eats a bowl of cereal before bed almost every night.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
4. Dec 26, 2007 4:40 AM in response to: gostate94
I agree with concentrating on the night before (or even days before). As for the morning of the run, eat whatever makes you happy and won't end up all over your shoes.

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Click to view actonrunner's profile Pro 70 posts since
Dec 30, 2002
5. Jun 19, 2007 4:45 PM in response to: gostate94
quote:<HR>Originally posted by spartan94:
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I'm not a morning person, but decided to get out "early" this weekend to do my long run (14 mi).
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It was warm and a bit muggy ...
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I'll bet it was more a combination of the two factors above. Just switching to morning takes a bit of getting used to.

For what it's worth, I've been a morning runner for many years, and I rarely eat anything before a long run (maybe a banana), although I do drink water before I go and I bring Gels and Sports drinks on the run. My longest runs are 20-22 miles, and I typically do about 4-5 of these before a marathon. (I do know people who need to eat before a morning long run. I just wanted to make it clear that not everyone does)
Click to view Addygrl's profile Pro 193 posts since
Nov 7, 2004
6. Jun 20, 2007 8:10 PM in response to: gostate94
Unlike most people, I've started eating something relatively filling before a long run if i know I'll be out there for a while. My favorite as of late is a PB&J (or PB&honey) sandwhich. Filling, relatively easy to digest, and easy to make. Plus the PB fills you up and gives you plenty of energy. I just do 1/2 a sandwhich on runs 10-14 and a full one for longer

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Click to view milkbaby004's profile Legend 464 posts since
Jul 28, 2003
7. Dec 26, 2007 4:40 AM in response to: gostate94
I just wanted to chime in... I'm not a morning person either. So what I did was buy some of those Clif Bars, which are supposed to be energy bars. They are about the same caloric and nutritional content as a very small breakfast, but there is no preparation time, and it sits in my stomach just fine. I usually have that and a little bit of Gatorade, juice, or water, whatever I'm in the mood for.

Of equal importance is to try and stay well hydrated at all times as well as in caloric balance. You can't go from being out of balance immediately before the run and expect to hydrate and eat enough as soon as you wake up to get to nominal levels. It's best to try and be prepared and feed and hydrate yourself so you are always ready to do your best.

Edited to add: If you aren't used to the heat and humidity, it can take 2 to 3 weeks for your body to start getting used to it. Take it easy and lay off the speed and take walk breaks if you need to. As your body adapts (your blood plasma volume will increase, you will sweat out less electrolytes, etc.), it will start to feel a bit easier or at least not as onerous!

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Click to view GreenEggsAndHam's profile Legend 314 posts since
Jun 4, 2006
8. Jun 22, 2007 10:05 AM in response to: gostate94
I friggin die if I don't eat before a run.
Any run, but especially a longer/more intense run.

Light headed, heavy legs-- run just won't be finished. It's dramatic.

If I'm dieting and don't eat before a run, (so that I don't have the previous day all built up) -- well, I've fainted once before.

Some people are more sensitive to it than others.

If you wake up late, try just a banana or maybe a clif bar if you need a bit more.
Click to view jrich7970's profile Legend 238 posts since
Oct 1, 2007
9. Jun 22, 2007 12:47 PM in response to: gostate94
A cup of yogurt always does me fine. Even if I'm doing a 20 miler.
Click to view Mailbox Head's profile Legend 215 posts since
Mar 22, 2006
10. Jun 22, 2007 12:54 PM in response to: gostate94
I try to not eat anything before a morning long run. It's an effort to try to get the most out of the physiological adaptations of forcing my body to get more efficient at burning fat for fuel and psychologically to get used to the feeling of running on lower energy levels. I'm not sure how the physical part is working, but I've built up to a 20 mile run on nothing but water. Although I will say this method's not for everyone, and one facor in this is how long you're out there. I don't run these really fast, but quick enough that I'm only out there for 2 hours 40 minutes. Once I get closer to my marathon, I'll probably start experimenting with some kind of additional fueling, but I won't look at that until at least late August/Early September.