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Click to view gbroooks's profile Amateur 29 posts since
Jul 19, 2007

Jul 19, 2007 3:54 PM

Confused on fruit

I eat lots of fruit. I'm thinking it's pretty healthy, yes?

Hmmmm.

Many (most) fruits have loads of simple sugars. I'm readying all these articles that say, "don't eat too many simple sugars." They lump em all together. I have a hard time believing that canteloupe, pineapple, grapes and strawberries are just as bad as candy bars!

For example, there's a quote on time-to-run.com that says, "Simple sugar absorption into the bloodstream causes an excess burst of insulin. Athletes are concerned with the quick insulin "spike". We've all experienced this quick burst of energy followed by the ensuing "crash" characterized by fatigue, lethargy, and mood swings ? i.e. bonking! "

So - I'm not supposed to eat fruit? What happened to an apple a day?

I just have a hard time believing that eating lots of fruit is going to make me gain weight and put me at risk for diabetes.

Anyone want to chime in? How much fruit is too much? How much is not enough?

(I'm a 36 yo male running 25-30 m/week.)

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Click to view HSunshine's profile Pro 196 posts since
Sep 15, 2003
1. Jul 19, 2007 4:13 PM in response to: gbroooks
If fruit is the least "healthy" thing in your diet, you are doing just fine

Fruit does contain sugar, but unlike candy, soda, and other artificial, highly processed foods, fruit also contains vitamins, water, and lots of fiber. So you'll be satisfied for a relatively small number of calories. If you're really trying hard to lose weight, I suppose you could eat less of the more calorie-dense fruits, such as bananas. Failing that, eat all the fruit you want, IMO. You really can't overeat on cantaloupe! And in the context of a well-balanced diet, I really wouldn't worry about the effects of fruit on insulin.
Click to view Ariann092's profile Legend 681 posts since
Jan 4, 2005
3. Jul 19, 2007 4:39 PM in response to: gbroooks
Fruit is one of the healthiest things in the world. In my opinion, you should as much of it as you can, particularly the delicious in-season, local stuff. Fruit does not cause a spike in blood sugar because its sugar is fructose, a simple sugar that takes the body much longer to break down than the sugar glucose, even though they contain the same basic components. The simple sugar contained in sweets is generally sucrose, a combination of glucose and fructose that is broken down very quickly (even "high fructose corn syrup" is about half sucrose and half fructose, not mostly fructose). Fructose is so much better than glucose or sucrose for keeping blood sugar levels even that it's often the sweetener of choice for sweets made for diabetics, who should really care about keeping the blood sugar level. (The only caution I would say on fructose is that any sugar can have serious detrimental effects if eaten in excess, so while I eat tons of fruit, I avoid sugar that's added to any food, even in the form of fructose.)

Besides the fact that fruit sugar has a different effect on blood sugar in and of itself, the sugar in fruit is "packaged" with water and fiber, which significantly mitigate any effect on the blood sugar. I think fruit is one of the best foods to eat more of when you're trying to lose weight. I usually eat 2-4 servings of fruit a day, but I try to bump it even higher than that when I'm trying to lose weight. Fruit is just chockful of goodness and nutrition, it's a tasty and low-cal treat to help deal with sweets cravings, and it grows in so many climates that you can find it fresh and local most of the year. Also, fruit has both a serious diuretic and laxative effect, which helps to deal with the "bloat."
Click to view Born to Run060's profile Legend 557 posts since
Jul 1, 2002
5. Jul 20, 2007 2:33 PM in response to: gbroooks
Check out all the good things fruit does for your body:

http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view TrailBitten's profile Pro 178 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Jul 20, 2007 4:32 PM in response to: gbroooks
I get confused when I drink too much beer but not on fruit. I love this time of year, when the fruit is fresh and so very abundant!

Was contemplating a three day "only fruit" next week.....
Click to view andreaq's profile Amateur 26 posts since
Apr 26, 2007
7. Aug 3, 2007 9:50 PM in response to: gbroooks
Fruit rocks!! Yes there is sugar in it, but it's natural sugar and it's nature's idea of giving us dessert! I've lost 75 lbs and I eat 3 servings of fruit a day-it has in no way hindered my weight loss.

The simple carbs that we should avoid are the ones you find in white bread, pastries, potato chips, white rice etc! Reach for whole grains, and "whole" foods as much as possible-if man (or woman) has altered/processed it much, odds are it's not the best thing for you (there are exceptions of course!)!

Enjoy your fruit!!!!
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
8. Aug 4, 2007 8:38 AM in response to: gbroooks
I think you may be confusing the term with "simple" and "complex" carbohydrates.Here is a relatively straight forward explanation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate[/URL" target="_blank">

I believe the monosaccharides and disaccharides are usually called sugars while the oligosaccharides and polysaccharides are termed starches. I don't think there is a "simple" sugar unless you want to term the monosaccharides as "simple" but that would make sucrose (table sugar) a "complex" sugar and that is probably not what you mean. The following is a small part of the Wikipedia article.

quote:<HR>Dietitians and nutritionists commonly classify carbohydrates as simple (monosaccharides and disaccharides) or complex (oligosaccharides and polysaccharides). The term complex carbohydrate was first used in the Senate Select Committee publication Dietary Goals for the United States (1977), where it denoted "fruit, vegetables and whole-grains".[3] Dietary guidelines generally recommend that complex carbohydrates and nutrient-rich simple carbohydrates such as fruit and dairy products should make up the bulk of carbohydrate consumption. The USDA's Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2005 dispenses with the simple/complex distinction, instead recommending fiber-rich foods and whole grains.[4]

The glycemic index and glycemic load systems are popular alternative classification methods which rank carbohydrate-rich foods based on their effect on blood glucose levels. The insulin index is a similar, more recent classification method which ranks foods based on their effects on blood insulin levels. This system assumes that high glycemic index foods and low glycemic index foods can be mixed to make the intake of high glycemic foods more acceptable.
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The World Health Organisation and Food and Agriculture Organization's joint expert report on Diet, Nutrition and the Prevention of Chronic Diseases (WHO Technical Report Series 916) advises carbohydrate consumption of 55-75% carbohydrate, but restricts "Free sugar" intake to 10%. Its definition is "The term "free sugars" refers to all monosaccharides and disaccharides added to foods by the manufacturer, cook or consumer, plus sugars naturally present in honey, syrups and fruit juices." (page 56 of the report; note to Table 6: Ranges of population nutrient intake goals). This is their effective split between simple and complex carbohydrates.<HR>


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Click to view CSuzette's profile Legend 290 posts since
Apr 8, 2005
9. Aug 7, 2007 12:02 PM in response to: gbroooks
Once I stopped eating fruit (among other high-carb foods) I lost weight.

Female
5'9"
133 pounds or so

I used to weigh closer to 145-150.
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
11. Aug 7, 2007 12:31 PM in response to: gbroooks
quote:<HR>Originally posted by CSuzette:
Once I stopped eating fruit (among other high-carb foods) I lost weight.

Female
5'9"
133 pounds or so

I used to weigh closer to 145-150.
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Of course you lost weight. Cut any form of calories from your diet and you will unconditionally lose weight. This is not rocket science. You lost weight because you cut calories. You could cut fat or protein from your diet and lose weight for exactly the same reason. Carbs do not contribute to fat storage any more than the same number of calories in the form of protein. The main difference is that carbs are an excellent form of muscle and brain energy. Protein is not. They are both equally good at contributing to fat storage.



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Click to view Acb8d2044's profile Pro 66 posts since
Sep 22, 2004
12. Aug 7, 2007 1:51 PM in response to: gbroooks
I think the low carb crazy gave fruit and some very good vegetables an unfair rap. Now if all you were eating was fruit ok maybe too much sugar, but it sounds like you are a pretty healthy eater.

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Click to view RunZRun's profile Expert 55 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
13. Aug 7, 2007 4:56 PM in response to: gbroooks
I stopped eating I lost more weight

quote:<HR>Originally posted by CSuzette:
Once I stopped eating fruit (among other high-carb foods) I lost weight.

Female
5'9"
133 pounds or so

I used to weigh closer to 145-150.
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Click to view Ice Cream's profile Legend 602 posts since
Dec 28, 2003
14. Aug 8, 2007 8:07 AM in response to: gbroooks
When I replaced what I considered to be uhealthy snacks in my diet with fruit, I lost weight and became more regular...