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Click to view StephanieSCares's profile Pro 101 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

Sep 25, 2007 2:33 PM

Very Gassy Intestine

I have upped my dairy and use of Power Bars. I have a tremendous amount of gas. Could it be from the dairy and Power Bars? Any suggestions for a recovery drink(non dairy) and snacks(instead of Power Bars?) Thanks Stephanie
Click to view Ariann092's profile Legend 681 posts since
Jan 4, 2005
1. Sep 25, 2007 3:20 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
If dairy is causing a lot of gas, you are probably lactose intolerant, along with the majority of the world's adult population. You might be able to deal with it by taking a Lactaid (lactase enzyme) pill with your dairy, but I find that doesn't do enough for me to be able to tolerate dairy. Using soy milk instead of cow milk for your recovery drink would work (unless you have a problem with soy also). Rice milk is pretty low in protein, so that probably wouldn't be a good alternative. Almond milk and oat milk are higher in protein than rice, and I think they taste pretty good.

Does the Powerbar contain a lot of fiber? You might need to work up to eating a whole one if it does. You probably won't totally eliminate the extra gas, but it will make it less painful if you build up your fiber intake. My other thought is that the Powerbar might contain either soy protein or a dairy product that has lactose in it. I know a few people who are sensitive to soy and get gassy when they eat it. So you could switch to a non-soy, non-dairy bar, of which there are limited options. I am a big fan of ClifNectar bars, which are just fruit and nuts and very filling. I also eat a lot of fresh fruit as snacks (if you have a problem with the fiber, you'll have to build up to that).
Click to view Ice Cream's profile Legend 602 posts since
Dec 28, 2003
3. Sep 26, 2007 6:28 AM in response to: StephanieSCares
For recovery, any protein and carbohydrate in a relationship of 1/4 will do. I do nt believe in recovery snacks for anything under 1 hour.
Try rice milk, a slice of whole wheat bread and some low fat cheese, yogurt with fruit, etc.

I disagree with what Ariann says: "If dairy is causing a lot of gas, you are probably lactose intolerant, along with the majority of the world's adult population." The population that is relevant to you is not the one with such high lactose intolerance, derived from an ancestry and practices that do not include cow's milk. If you lived or your heritage is from one of those countries, then yes, but most likely, no. CC readers grew up in middle class american households.

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there are easy ways to test if you are lactose intolerant. I thought I was, too, but found out that soy was causing my problem.
Click to view Ariann092's profile Legend 681 posts since
Jan 4, 2005
4. Sep 26, 2007 11:38 AM in response to: StephanieSCares
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ice Cream:
I disagree with what Ariann says: "If dairy is causing a lot of gas, you are probably lactose intolerant, along with the majority of the world's adult population." The population that is relevant to you is not the one with such high lactose intolerance, derived from an ancestry and practices that do not include cow's milk. If you lived or your heritage is from one of those countries, then yes, but most likely, no. CC readers grew up in middle class american households.
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First of all, that's quite an assumption. I wasn't aware we were all western Europeans and WASPs who grew up middle class. About 70% of the adult population of my particular ethnic group in the U.S. is lactose intolerant (and mostly middle class, thank you very much). Second of all, not all middle class American households consume liquid milk. My family ate cheese (which often doesn't contain lactose), but didn't drink milk. Third, I know several WASPs and others of Northern European ancestry, who grew up in heavy milk-drinking families, who are genuinely lactose intolerant in serious ways. I don't personally know many American middle-class adults who drink milk on a regular basis who are not runners, which means they've had many years to lose their ability to digest it, whatever their cultural and biological ancestry is. (As your link says, 12% of WHITE Americans are lactose intolerant, that's a whole lot of people you're discounting!) If upping the dairy is what's bothering Stephanie, then that's probably the culprit. As you say, there are easy ways to find out and we both offered easy solutions if that's the problem.

I do agree that recovery drinks are probably unnecessary under the hour mark. As I rarely run over an hour, I never have to invent a post-run snack, I just make sure to eat my next regular meal soon afterwards.
Click to view figbash's profile Legend 620 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Sep 26, 2007 11:55 AM in response to: StephanieSCares
Have you tried incorporating some fartlek's into your runs? It may help dissipate some of the gas.

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Click to view DavidD063's profile Legend 361 posts since
Jan 25, 2007
6. Sep 26, 2007 2:09 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
Most GI gas is caused by swallowing air during eating/drinking, and carbohydrates such as grains, potatoes and sugar (but not honey and fruit).
Click to view dg12002's profile Legend 622 posts since
Aug 26, 2003
7. Sep 26, 2007 2:14 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
Soy is overrated and creates hormonal problems, get raw milk instead and you wont have problems.
Click to view graingirl's profile Legend 272 posts since
Jul 20, 2001
8. Sep 26, 2007 4:21 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
My husband eats power bars and protein bars on occassion and he always gets gas from them. We've always just assumed it was the whey that was in them. Why we believe that is because protein powders, which have whey as their prime ingredient, most definitely give him gas. So, you might want to look at the list of ingredients on your particular power bars and see if that could be a possibility. In terms of recovery snacks: peanut butter and banana, or honey, on a slice of whole wheat bread; hard boiled egg and a piece of fruit; cottage cheese and fruit; yogurt and fruit; small bowl of cereal; small fruit smoothie; small baggie of trail mix with nuts, dried fruit, cereal; kashi granola bars are easy; cheese and crackers with a glass of OJ, etc...
Click to view wkm99's profile Legend 407 posts since
Jun 30, 2006
9. Sep 26, 2007 5:42 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
I'd ax the dairy and PBs. For recovery, a small meal or snack and water should be fine.
Click to view Biophilia's profile Pro 171 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
10. Sep 26, 2007 9:15 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
the powerbar proteinplus reduced sugar bar contains maltitol which is a sugar alcohol and might cause gas.

I actually had a gas problems with another energy bar that contained a sugar alcohol (forget which it was but it might actually have been this one). I got these gas cramps in the middle of my runs and it took me awhile to make the connection.
Click to view newguy56's profile Pro 141 posts since
Jul 19, 2006
11. Sep 26, 2007 9:21 PM in response to: StephanieSCares
Stop eating the things that give you problems.

FIXED! Next!
Click to view Ice Cream's profile Legend 602 posts since
Dec 28, 2003
13. Sep 27, 2007 6:34 AM in response to: StephanieSCares
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ariann:
I wasn't aware we were all western Europeans and WASPs who grew up middle class. <HR>


How is the diversity at the races that you ran?
Click to view reboot's profile Legend 398 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
14. Sep 27, 2007 9:07 AM in response to: StephanieSCares
Way too much has been made of "recovery" foods. Unless you are in the habit of running more than once per day, they are entirely unnecessary. They may make you think you are recovering "better" but such is not the case.

About the only thing that can be claimed for these "recovery" formulae is that they will speed recovery by a few hours in highly trained athletes that undergo rigorous training sessions.

In a typical recreational runner that has just completed a daily run, eating anything is simply an unnecessary snack and eating the various bars and sports drinks is eating an unnecessary junk food snack. In a recreational runner, there is not much to recover from, and what little recovery is necessary would be far better accomplished from the nutritional content of a regular balanced meals rather than junkie snacks.

I am sure the "recovery" food producers would like you to believe you will become some sort of super runner if you eat their junk but it is still junk. Their "selling" job is based on the premise that you will never recover unless you eat their food. Not true! The recovery food will have zero effect on athlete performance unless you plan to engage in additional athletic activity within a few hours.

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