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Click to view 67hic's profile Rookie 7 posts since
Jan 28, 2007

Oct 26, 2007 4:44 AM

South Beach diet, is it too restrictive to continue running

I am thinking of going on the South Beach diet and was just wondering if it was too low on carbs for running. I am only running 15-20 miles a week at the moment but want to start building up to mara in a few months. i thought i could start this diet while the miles are still low. have anyone else tried south beach while exercising. If so how was it, did you get tired easliy or find the longer runs hard work? I am not a fan of fad diets and know they are not sustainable and a balanced diet is best and, an, and, blah, blah, blah. But i'm desparate to get my weight loss kick started.
Click to view Diesel88's profile Pro 159 posts since
Sep 1, 2004
1. Oct 26, 2007 11:39 AM in response to: 67hic
Research or invest in a good, structured marathon training plan. Hold off on the South Beach-ish diets for now because any training plan worth it's salt includes reasonable nutrition changes that ensure you are taking in the proper fuel that an athlete requires when training for - and completing - endurance events such as a marathon.

The bonus is if you are going to stick with running, the valuable information you gain from a well-executed plan will provide the foundation for a lifestyle change that you can 'live' with.

Best of luck!
Click to view mrinertia's profile Legend 1,356 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Oct 26, 2007 4:19 PM in response to: 67hic
quote:<HR>Originally posted by 67hic:
I am not a fan of fad diets and know they are not sustainable and a balanced diet is best
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I think you answered your own question. I don't think that desperation is a good foundation for a weight loss plan, the best foundation is gonna be based on commitment.

Not sure how much weight you have to lose, but regardless of the number, patience and consistency is the key.
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Nov 30, 2005
3. Oct 26, 2007 10:37 PM in response to: 67hic
Anything you can stick with is a good diet. I personally have been on the Atkins Diet for more than three years and have not had detrimental effects to my running. Pick something that meets your taste whether that be moderation or something more restrictive. Any change in dietary consumption will lead to short term negative effects, but long term your body will acclimate to most eating plans.

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Click to view therealman's profile Legend 267 posts since
Jul 11, 2002
4. Oct 30, 2007 12:57 PM in response to: 67hic
If it is, don't do it.
Click to view fragileknees's profile Amateur 32 posts since
Nov 7, 2007
5. Oct 31, 2007 3:59 PM in response to: 67hic
I did south beach and found that FOR ME phase 1 was too carb restrictive to run. I would advise starting at phase 2. Good luck.
Click to view savannahbanana's profile Expert 43 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Nov 1, 2007 11:15 AM in response to: 67hic
I ran 15-20 miles while doing the first phase of SBD and had no problem. The first phase is only two weeks long and you should be eating a ton of vegetables. If you find you're tiring, you can add in a high-fiber whole grain snack either before your run or after.
Click to view dg12002's profile Legend 622 posts since
Aug 26, 2003
7. Nov 1, 2007 11:26 AM in response to: 67hic
Thr book has a chapter for running on more carbs..
Click to view brazilianfootwork's profile Pro 142 posts since
Jul 6, 2004
8. Nov 1, 2007 8:34 PM in response to: 67hic
I would also start on phase 2 like someone else suggested. Yeah, it'll take a bit longer to lose, but that way you get to eat healhier AND run. I stopped after 3 days of phase 1 of this diet because my runs were sluggish and I'd rather prioritize my running.
Click to view savannahbanana's profile Expert 43 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
10. Nov 2, 2007 1:36 PM in response to: 67hic
Lala running,

SBD really is not supposed to be low-carb. If you're following the SBD guidelines properly, you should be eating a huge amount of vegetables and legumes and after the first two weeks, a reasonable amount of whole grain foods and fruits. If you are very active, you would add more of the whole grains and fruits earlier and eat more of them. SBD even has a vegetarian version. It's really not the same as Atkins. It's all about eating high-quality food, i.e., getting rid of processed, oversugared foods and getting back to basics. People who are not familiar with the details of SBD see the elimination of fruit and whole grains for two weeks only as some sort of low carb approach but that's really not the goal and you can certainly skip the first two weeks if you can't get by without an apple a day!

Just my 2 cents.
Click to view Biophilia's profile Pro 171 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
12. Nov 2, 2007 4:16 PM in response to: 67hic
quote:<HR>Originally posted by bowulf:
In over three years, I have been totally blessed by the low carb hype. I could address all the myths like "Low carbohydrate diets affect mood" obesity affected my moods more than that. Or mention the Dr. Stephen Phinney published work dealing athletic performance and ketogenic diets, like Atkins. (http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2) In the end, the dieter will have to make up his own mind on whether or not to accept 2-3 weeks of body acclimation to ketogenic diets.

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there's also this reference from the International Society of Sports Nutrition (from 2004)
http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/site/pdf/Manninen-JISSN-1-2-7-11-04.pdf[/URL" target="_blank">

and another one from Nutrition and Metabolism that dispels the myths of high protein diets and their relationship to purported kidney problems.
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25[/URL" target="_blank">

after doing a lot of reading on the issue, the only thing I'm apprehensive about when it comes to low carb diets (when done healthily), is the potential decrease in exercise performance during high (elite) levels of training due to lower levels of stored glycogen that reportedly occur.
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Jul 6, 2006
13. Nov 2, 2007 7:30 PM in response to: 67hic
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Biophilia:

after doing a lot of reading on the issue, the only thing I'm apprehensive about when it comes to low carb diets (when done healthily), is the potential decrease in exercise performance during high (elite) levels of training due to lower levels of stored glycogen that reportedly occur.

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Is that the only thing? Because in the two week test thread, you had a lot to say about the low carb...
Click to view Biophilia's profile Pro 171 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
14. Dec 26, 2007 4:57 AM in response to: 67hic
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lala Running:
Is that the only thing? Because in the two week test thread, you had a lot to say about the low carb...<HR>


not really. A couple paragraphs maybe.

and yes, that is it, ("when done healthily").

http://This message has been edited by Biophilia (edited Nov-02-2007).