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15 Replies Last post: Nov 30, 2007 7:47 AM by chele519   1 2 Previous Next
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Nov 28, 2007 1:13 PM

Considering becoming vegetarian-questions

I've been thinking about this for a while and everything I've read convinces me to try it except for a couple things I see as problems. I would probably still eat chicken occasionally, mainly because I have quite a bit in the freezer but once that is gone, my goal would be to avoid it. I'd still eat egg whites, non fat dairy, yogurt, skim milk, and chocolate soy milk. Here's my concern, I don't like beans. I put some black beans in my veggie chili and sometimes have a taco salad with 1/4 cup of black beans but that's about it. I only like tofu in sauces such as homemade mayonnaise or made into a dessert like mousse/pudding. I don't like the chunks in stir fry dishes. I think it's the texture that I don't care for. So, I'm thinking I'd still need to eat tuna to get enough protein.
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1. Nov 28, 2007 2:21 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
Not liking beans is a problem, but it's not necessarily insurmountable. First of all, if you're still including eggs and dairy in your diet, you won't have to rely primarily on beans for your protein. Many vegetarians also enjoy meat analogs, made of soy and/or wheat gluten and there is a big variety of them out there. Nuts are also a good source of protein (unfortunately they can't be a major source because they're just too high in calories to eat a ton of). I really think it would be worthwhile to you to try and like beans, though. Half a cup twice a day could be a very positive addition to your diet. Branch out from black beans and try out lentils, pinto beans, kidney beans, cannelini, great northern, navy, chickpeas (my favorite), adzuki, the list goes on. You may find one or a few that are more palatable to you. They can be incorporated into many different types of dishes and cuisines.
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3. Nov 28, 2007 2:50 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
I also try to eat mostly vegetarian for health reasons. However, I do eat boneless, skinless chicken. If you aren't against eating meat for moral reasons, you may want to reconsider. I find that when I went totally off of meat I had huge cravings for meat all the time. With the chicken I eat(usually twice weekly), I do not have problems with meat cravings. If you like hummus, then I would definitely find a good recipe and make your own, its so healthy. I stay away from all the "meatless" processed foods because frankly they aren't good for you, especially that Quorn stuff. Tofu is OK once you get used to cooking it and get used to the texture, it does take time. Good luck and Cheers to good health!
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5. Nov 28, 2007 5:31 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
If you are near any asian ethnic supermarkets, you may want to look inside. They tend to have a good variety of vegetables and mushrooms, as well as a large selection of vegetarian "protein" foods made from tofu and wheat gluten, not to mention many types of tofu.
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6. Nov 28, 2007 6:42 PM in response to: chele519
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great northerns are my favorite bean because they do not have much flavor and add well to things. I also use red/pink kidneys. I don't use black beans all that much unless the recipe calls for them.

There is nothing wrong with dairy. I'm a veggie and I eat a lot of dairy. I have milk every day (which also helps with protein), cheese most days, and on occasion enjoy cottage cheese, yogurt, and ice cream.
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8. Nov 28, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
I cook from Vegetarian Times a lot and I usually omit almost all of the fat they specify and replace what remains with olive oil. Fat is not the enemy in terms of weight loss, calories are. A lower fat diet may help you eat more bulk for the same calories, but I even find that sometimes the little bit of fat is what sates my hunger and not the larger portions. If you're just trying to reduce calories, you can just take a third to half of whatever you normally eat at lunch and dinner and replace it with steamed veggies. No fat, more vegetable servings, fewer calories. Of course, higher intensity or longer exercise also helps burn more calories, so you might want to look at your exercise routine as hard as you're looking at your diet. Vegetarianism is not a magic cure to fat, unfortunately. I have been a fat vegetarian and a thin vegetarian, a fit vegetarian and an out-of-shape one. I don't think it's worth taking on a purely vegetarian diet unless you believe in the ethic. A healthy diet can be achieved including meat, too, you just have to make sure you're leaving plenty of room for the veggies. Whatever you do, I still think it's worth learning to like beans, as they are an incredible source of nutrition and antioxidants and they're also packed with fiber and protein to keep you feeling full and satiated on a lower fat diet.
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10. Nov 28, 2007 9:23 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
chele, I had dieted many, many times over many years until I figured out what worked for me in terms of feeling full, getting the right nutrition, having energy to live and work out, and finally getting to and maintaining a healthy weight. Being consistent about recording is a big part of it. I have definitely been in the place where I'm really sticking to my plan all day and then fall down at night and don't write anything down, then of course feel bad in the morning so I skip standing on the scale so the day's weight doesn't get recorded, etc. It's a bad cycle. I find what helps a lot is a) having no food in the house that's easy to overeat - everything in the house should take at least 10 minutes to prepare; b) planning all of my meals at least a day in advance and not allowing myself to veer from the plan by even one iota - if I said I'm going to eat broccoli at dinner I have to eat broccoli at dinner, even if I feel like spinach. That really takes the emotional component out of it as well as the end of the day tiredness mixed with hunger which leads you to make decisions you'll regret.

It's funny what you say about butter. I'm glad I never developed a taste for it because I didn't grow up with it in the house. But my husband could eat a piece of toast with butter, cream cheese, and jelly on it and he thinks that's a great delicacy. (So we don't keep butter or cream cheese in the house.) Do you think you could handle adding nuts to your earlier meals to get a little fat in that doesn't make you crave more? Another suggestion is to turn your meals upside down - eat what you might eat for dinner for breakfast instead and then eat a light breakfast-like dinner. That way you'll be getting the same nutritional result, but your protein-heavy meal will be early in the day. I actually eat beans at almost every meal, including breakfast, so the amount of protein is split pretty evenly between the three meals.
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12. Nov 29, 2007 1:03 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
Vegan diets tend to be lower fat than average. I've been vegan for three years and I am 5'7" and 108 pounds of muscle. Vegan and vegetarian diets are not inherently high in fat.

With regards to tuna, I make something called "tu-no" salad that is remarkably like tuna, and nobody has to die.
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13. Nov 29, 2007 1:58 PM in response to: chele519
Re: Considering becoming vegetarian-questions
I'm a new vegetarian (only a few weeks) so I don't have much more to offer than has already been posted.

There's a great great northern bean and tomato salad I make that doesn't taste "like beans" as it were. Closer to a taboule taste with a different texture to it.

How about lentils? Tons of stuff you could do there.

Soy products and peanut butter are also good sources of protein.
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14. Nov 29, 2007 9:52 PM in response to: chele519
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I've been a vegetarian for 6 years (no meat/fish, but I eat eggs/dairy) and the number one piece of advice is to be open to trying new foods. I eat veggies now that I used to hate and it took me forever to learn how to fix tofu the way I like it best. You mentioned recipes on Vegetarian Times website being high fat. One of my favorite cook books is their low-fat and fast cook book. There is tons of great info out there, just be open to it and do your research.

Oh, and I hate to nit pick...but you will not be a vegetarian if you eat chicken....you just eat mostly vegetarian foods. I can't tell you how many times I say I'm vegetarian and people ask me if I eat fish! Sigh.