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Click to view Richard99's profile Legend 351 posts since
Oct 25, 2004

Dec 26, 2007 5:01 AM

Adaptations to Marathon Training

Adaptations to Marathon Training


Running a marathon requires a significant amount of specific marathon training in order to prepare the body to handle the stress of running 26.2 miles. If an average runner attempts to run a marathon without adequate training they are unlikely to be able to run the entire distance. Instead, at some point during the race they will most likely become exhausted and will slow to a ?death march? to the finish assuming they don?t drop-out from fatigue or sustain an injury that forces them to abandon the race. Non-runners who attempt a marathon without training are almost assured of becoming exhausted and unable to complete the race or to sustain a race-ending injury. On the other hand, as few as 16 weeks of proper training will enable most people, even non-runners, to successfully complete a marathon.

Clearly, the body adapts with training so that what was once hard or beyond the capabilities of the body becomes easier or possible with proper training. The 10 mile run that might be impossible for a non-runner to complete prior to starting run training is transformed into an easy run once adequate training is conducted.

What adaptations occur within the body that transforms a non-runner unable to run even modest distances into a person capable of running 26.2 miles without stopping and without injury? The traditional answer given by exercise physiology to this question is centered on the body?s ability to absorb, transport, and utilize oxygen, using terms such as VO2max, lactate threshold, and running economy to explain the adaptations that occur within the body. Is this answer accurate? Does the traditional answer fully or mostly explain the changes in the body that enable someone to transform from a non-runner or recreational runner into a marathon runner? A new research study suggests that the traditional answers do not tell the full story and, instead, that other physiological changes within the body may more accurately explain the increased running capabilities from marathon training. Let?s take a look at this recent research and see what it has to teach us.

Research

Previous research on marathon training success has focused heavily on the physiological parameters having to do with aerobic capacity. Researchers have extensively measured the VO2max, lactate threshold, and running economy of a wide variety of marathon runners, from the fastest of the elites to those runners finishing many hours later. This research has shown that runners of similar physiological profiles often perform very differently in the marathon. For examples, two runners with very similar VO2max levels may finish the marathon with very different times. Despite very similar physiological profiles one is a significantly faster runner than the other. Further, it is not uncommon for researchers to measure a change in endurance performance but no change in aerobic capacity. It is obvious, then, that other, as yet unidentified, factors play a significant role in marathon performance.

One physiological component that likely contributes significantly to performance but has received sparse attention from researchers is muscle. Relatively little research has been done on the role muscle function plays in distance running performance. Knowing this, in 2006 a group of researchers from Ball State University decided to examine changes in both aerobic capacity and in the muscles during marathon training.(1) They hypothesized that significant changes would take place within the muscle fibers.

Ball State University offers a university class designed to prepare students physically and mentally to complete a marathon following a proven, 16 weeks, 4-days-per-week marathon training program. In 1994 this 4 days-per-week program was compared in a research study to a traditional 6 days-per-week marathon training program and found to be equally effective.(2) Since then hundreds of students have followed this program and completed a marathon.

The program takes non-runners and novice runners and gradually increases their training volume over a period of 16 weeks. Three easy runs are conducted each week with the key workout in this program being the weekly long run, which progresses from an initial distance of 5 miles up to two 18 mile runs. Weekly training volume begins at 15 miles and increases to a peak of 36 miles. With the emphasis being on marathon completion rather than maximum performance, all training runs are conducted at an easy pace.

The researchers recruited subjects participating in the marathon training class and tested them on 3 separate occasions: before the 16 week training plan, after 13 weeks of training, and after a 3 week taper and marathon. The subjects were tested on the standard physiological measures of VO2max, running economy, heart rate, and body weight. Additionally, muscle biopsies were conducted so that single muscle fibers could be tested for size, strength, shortening velocity, power characteristics, and oxidative enzyme activity.

Results

All the subjects successfully completed the marathon. The average time was 4:54 hr:min, with a range of 3:56 hr:min to 5:35 hr:min.

Aerobic adaptations
There were few changes in the runners? aerobic capacity. Oxidative enzyme activity (citrate synthase activity), which is a measure of the muscles ability to produce energy aerobically, increased by 37%. Interestingly, despite the increase ability of the muscles to produce energy aerobically there was no change in VO2max (49.5 vs. 52 ml/kg/min). There was a trend for an increase in absolute VO2 from 3.37 l/min to 3.5 l/min, but the change was not large enough to be significant. Running economy improved at the submaximal running speed of 9.65 km/hr (similar to training & marathon pace), with an absolute decrease in oxygen consumption of 2.43 vs 2.28 l/min and relative oxygen consumption decreasing from 36.0 to 33.6 ml/kg/min. The aerobic adaptations are summed in table 1.

Table 1: Aerobic adaptations to marathon training

Physiological Component Before After % Change
Citrate Synthase (oxidative enzyme) 19.2 26.3 +37%
VO2max 49.5 ml/kg/min 52.0 ml/kg/min No significant change
Absolute VO2max 3.37 l/min 3.50 l/min No significant change
Absolute Oxygen consumption at 9.65 km/hr 2.43 l/min 2.28 l/min 6% improvement
Relative Oxygen consumption at 9.65 km/hr 36.0 ml/kg/min 33.6 ml/kg/min 6.7% improvement

Muscle adaptations
In contrast to the modest adaptations in the cardiovascular system, there were significant changes in the muscles of the runners. First, slow twitch & fast twitch oxidative muscle fibers decreased 21% & 23% respectively in size (diameter). This is significant because all things being equal, smaller fibers are weaker than larger fibers. However, despite the decrease in size of the muscle fibers, the contractile ability of the muscles actually increased. Peak force (strength) stayed the same in the slow twitch fibers and increased 18% in fast twitch oxidative fibers. Strength in relation to the decreased fiber size increased approx. 60% in both fiber types. Muscle power also increased. Absolute power output increased in slow twitch fibers by 56% and in fast twitch oxidative fibers by 53%. Relative power output increased 100% in slow twitch fibers and 84% in fast twitch oxidative fibers. Additionally, slow twitch fibers increased their shortening velocity 28%. Table 2 sums the changes in muscle contractility.

Table 2: Changes in muscle strength, power, and contraction speed with marathon training
% Change in
Slow twitch fibers % Change in
fast twitch oxidative fibers
Strength Relative 60% 60%
Absolute NC 18%
Power Relative 100% 84%
Absolute 56% 53%
Contraction Speed 28% NC
NC = no change

Discussion

What should we make of all the above? What do all those changes mean? First, we note that the training program was successful in preparing these subjects to complete the marathon. As was pointed out at the beginning of this article, few non-runners can run the entire marathon distance without proper training. So, this training program produced sufficient improvements in fitness to allow these subjects to complete the marathon.

What the results of this study shows, then, is that the physiological changes that occurred in these subjects that enabled them to run a marathon took place in the muscles, not in the cardiovascular system. All of the changes occurred in the muscles ? strength, power, contraction speed, and oxidative enzyme activity were improved in one or both fiber types. Even running economy, which improved 6%, now appears to be a muscle factor as research indicates running economy is determined more by muscle fiber type than cardiovascular factors.(3,4) Indeed, VO2max did not improve as a result of training and the increased power output of the muscle likely explains the 6% decreased submaximal oxygen consumption at the 9.65 km/hr pace. In short, major changes in muscle contractility accompanied by changes in the muscles ability to produce energy aerobically are what allowed these subjects to successfully run a marathon.

Are these results unique or surprising? No, they are not as other studies have produced similar findings. A study of collegiate cross-country runners found their slow twitch fibers contraction speed to be at the upper end of the range typically observed for human slow twitch fibers.(5) One study examining the effects on muscle fiber function of a 21 day taper in swimmers found increased muscle contraction speed, strength, & power accompanied a 4% increase in performance.(6) A study of master runners showed that their slow twitch fibers contracted 20% faster than matched sedentary adults.(7) In fact, the researchers calculated that during running the master runners slow twitch fibers ??would produce more than twice as much power?? as the slow twitch fibers of the sedentary runners. Finally, 7 years of research data on Lance Armstrong indicated that the primary physiological adaptation that occurred between ages 21 and 28 was an 18% improvement in power-to-weight ratio. His performance during this same time period improved from young pro-cyclist to multiple winner of the Tour de France though no changes occurred in his aerobic capacity during this same time period. This indicates that the increased power output is what enabled the performance improvements.(8)

Summary

Exercise physiologists have traditionally focused on changes in aerobic capacity to explain improvements in endurance fitness and performance. However, runners with very different performance abilities can have very similar aerobic capacities and changes in running performance are not always accompanied by changes in aerobic capacity. In an attempt to explain these discrepancies some researchers have begun examining other factors that may play a role in endurance performance.

In particular, a few researchers have attempted to determine if changes in muscle fiber contractility accompany changes in endurance performance. A recent study on adaptations with marathon training found minor cardiovascular changes but very large changes in muscle strength, power, & contraction speed. The changes in muscle fiber capability most likely explain the physiological improvements that enabled the subjects to successful run a marathon. The changes revealed by this research are supported by multiple other studies that have found similar changes in muscle strength, power, and rate of contraction with endurance training.

Reference:

1. Trappe S, Harber M, Creer A, Gallagher P, Slivka D, Minchev K, Whitsett D., Single muscle fiber adaptations with marathon training, J Appl Physiol, 2006, 101: 721-727.
2. Dolgener FA, Kolkhorst FW, Whitsett DA., Long slow distance training in novice marathoners, Res Q Exerc Sport, 1995, 65:339-346.
3. Coyle E, Sidossis L, Horowitz J, Beltz J., Cycling efficiency is related to the percentage of Type 1 muscle fibers, Med Sci Sports Exer, 1992, 24(7), 782-788.
4. Horowitz J, Sidossis L, Coyle E., High efficiency of Type 1 muscle fibers improves performance, Int J Sports Med, 1994, 15(3), 152-157.
5. Harber MP, Gallagher PM, Creer AR, Minchev KM, Trappe SW., Single muscle fiber contractile properties during a competitive season in male runners, Am J Physiol Regul Intergr Comp Physiol, 2004, 287: R1124-R1131.
6. Trappe S, Costill D, Thomas R., Effect of swim taper on whole muscle and single muscle fiber contractile properties, Med Sci Sports Exerc, 2000, 32(12), 48-56.
7. Widrick J, Trappe S, Costill D, Fitts R., Force-velocity and force-power properties of single muscle fibers from elite master runners and sedentary men, Am J Physiol, 1996, 271(Cell Physiol 40), C676-C683.
8. Coyle E., Improved muscular efficiency displayed as Tour de France champion matures, J Appl Physiol, 2005, 98: 2191-2196.

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2. Jul 26, 2007 10:30 PM in response to: Richard99
Richard...I found this very interesting as I am currently training for a marathon using Dave Whitsett's (sp?) book, the NonRunner's Guide. So far, I feel great and my cardiovascular system doesn't seem to be as severely taxed as my muscular system. All I want to do is finish this marathon in under 7 hours (only b/c that's the time limit). So far I'm running at about 13 mpm, which will be fine with me. Thanks for the post, I found it very informative and useful. Any other words of wisdom you could impart would be very much appreciated.
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3. Jul 27, 2007 2:51 AM in response to: Richard99
In a nutshell: Running improves your muscles, but not really anything else? I take it the heart should be added to the list of muscles being strengthened?
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6. Jul 27, 2007 9:34 AM in response to: Richard99
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Richard99:
Adaptations to Marathon Training


Aerobic adaptations
There were few changes in the runners? aerobic capacity. Oxidative enzyme activity (citrate synthase activity), which is a measure of the muscles ability to produce energy aerobically, increased by 37%. Interestingly, despite the increase ability of the muscles to produce energy aerobically there was no change in VO2max (49.5 vs. 52 ml/kg/min). There was a trend for an increase in absolute VO2 from 3.37 l/min to 3.5 l/min, but the change was not large enough to be significant. Running economy improved at the submaximal running speed of 9.65 km/hr (similar to training & marathon pace), with an absolute decrease in oxygen consumption of 2.43 vs 2.28 l/min and relative oxygen consumption decreasing from 36.0 to 33.6 ml/kg/min. The aerobic adaptations are summed in table 1.

Table 1: Aerobic adaptations to marathon training

Physiological Component Before After % Change
Citrate Synthase (oxidative enzyme) 19.2 26.3 +37%
VO2max 49.5 ml/kg/min 52.0 ml/kg/min No significant change
Absolute VO2max 3.37 l/min 3.50 l/min No significant change
Absolute Oxygen consumption at 9.65 km/hr 2.43 l/min 2.28 l/min 6% improvement
Relative Oxygen consumption at 9.65 km/hr 36.0 ml/kg/min 33.6 ml/kg/min 6.7% improvement
What the results of this study shows, then, is that the physiological changes that occurred in these subjects that enabled them to run a marathon took place in the muscles, not in the cardiovascular system. All of the changes occurred in the muscles ? strength, power, contraction speed, and oxidative enzyme activity were improved in one or both fiber types. Even running economy, which improved 6%, now appears to be a muscle factor as research indicates running economy is determined more by muscle fiber type than cardiovascular factors.(3,4) Indeed, VO2max did not improve as a result of training and the increased power output of the muscle likely explains the 6% decreased submaximal oxygen consumption at the 9.65 km/hr pace. In short, major changes in muscle contractility accompanied by changes in the muscles ability to produce energy aerobically are what allowed these subjects to successfully run a marathon.
Summary

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Richard,
I really can not argue that indeed there are great adaptations in muscle from the training which are nescessary to completing the Marathon.
With that said, I would argue with the conclusion that there was "No change in VO2Max". (49.5 vs. 52 ml/kg/min). That is a significant increase (>5%) in VO@max. This would corralate w/increase of running economy (6%). The change in VO2 max equates to a reduction in 5k prediction time of 1 MINUTE (20:00 vs 19:00), or marathon time reduction of 10 MINUTES (3:14 vs 3:04). This to me points out different conclusions than those offered.

1. Muscle adaptations are by far the greatest factor in allowing people to complete a marathon (esp. without injury)
2.I would have to disagree with the statement "Indeed, VO2max did not improve as a result of training " like I stated above 5% is an increase I would love to have.

Am I looking at this wrong? Again this whole thing is very interesting, but may be skewed with overall assesment, or am I reading too much into it? This study occured on "non-runners" and we would expect the greatest change in muscle adaptation. If it were conducted on experienced runners would the muscle adaptations be less significant (I would also assume the VO2max change would be less also)?

just my $.02
Click to view JimR022's profile Legend 1,008 posts since
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7. Jul 27, 2007 9:52 AM in response to: Richard99
Here's some more of Richard's writings...if you're so interested:

Richard on RPE (perceived exertion), during discussion of use of RPE and duration for calculating workload in runners:


"I understand that the pace one can maintain decreases as the race distance increases. Race pace for a marathoner is slower than race pace for a 10k, for example. Though this is true, it has nothing to do with how RPE is measured. RPE is not pace dependent, it is effort dependent.

If you raced a 10k at an all out effort - meaning you ran the 10k as fast as you physically could on that day, setting a PR in the process, and there was no way you could have run that 10k even 1 second faster, you left it all out on the race course - you ran an RPE of 10.

If you raced a marathon at an all out effort - meaning you ran the marathon as fast as you physically could on that day, setting a PR in the process, and there was no way you could have run that marathon even 1 second faster, you left it all out on the race course - you ran an RPE of 10.

You ran at a faster per mile pace, at a higher % of max pace, at a higher level of blood lactate, at a higher % of max HR during the 10k. All of which has nothing to do with the amount of effort you put forth in both races. In both races, despite differences in the above measures, you ran the same level of overall RPE - 10 in this case.

How could a slower pace per mile end up being the same effort as a faster pace per mile? Because you ran the slower pace per mile for a longer duration, resulting in equal RPEs."


Richard fluently misrepresents a pretty standard methodology of determining effort. RPE is a rating developed by Dr. Gunnar Borg in the 1950's to help evaluate effort during exercise. It's been modified countless times to apply to other fields such as the medical community, industry, etc. The standard interpretation of the Borg 20 point scale for exercise reads like this:


6 No exertion at all
7 Extremely light
8
9 Very light - (easy walking slowly at a comfortable pace)
10
11 Light
12
13 Somewhat hard (It is quite an effort; you feel tired but can continue)
14
15 Hard (heavy)
16
17 Very hard (very strenuous, and you are very fatigued)
18
19 Extremely hard (You can not continue for long at this pace)
20 Maximal exertion


20 point scales are not often used, so a modified 10 point scale was developed. A rendering of a standard 10 point scale:


0 Nothing The feeling you have at rest. There is no feeling of fatigue

0.5 Very, very light Working at a desk, reading, listening to music or watching tv while physically at rest.

1 Very light Getting dressed. Little or no fatigue.

2 Fairly moderate Feeling you might get while slowly walking across your yard.

3 Moderate Comfortable but slightly elevated breathing. You should be able to talk while walking.

4 Somewhat hard Walking briskly to the store. Aware breathing is deeper and slight feeling of fatigue.

5 Hard Rushing for an appointment. General fatigue but you could maintain this level. Breathing is somewhat deep.

6

7 Very hard Vigorous exercise. Definite feeling of fatigue and breathing hard.

8 Vigorous exercise. Definite feeling of fatigue and breathing hard. Difficult to maintain.

9 Very, very hard Extremely vigorous exercise. Very definite feeling of fatigue and laboured breathing. You could not exercise at this level for long.

10 Maximal All out exercise/exhaustion.


In these cases, the main point is the maximum level. Maximum effort is only obtained near the point of exhaustion and can only be attained briefly.

Richard, however, tries to convince us that a person can run an entire 10k race, and even a marathon, at a maximum level of effort (RPE of 10) on a 10 point scale. Richard declares "In both races, despite differences in the above measures, you ran the same level of overall RPE - 10 in this case."

Imagine, if you will, running at such a hard effort that you are about to reach exhaustion, so hard that you simply would be unable to keep it up. Now imagine trying to do that for 26 miles without taking a breather. You would be dead in the first mile if you tried, more likely much less than that.

Now, why does Richard make such a blatantly ridiculous claim? The snippet above is from the defunct Runtex forum, where Richard attempted to show that 'average' runners incur the same workload over a given distance as their 'elite' counterparts, and tries to twist this concept to make it appear average runners work often twice or 3 times (or more) as hard. This takes some mathematical wizardry on Richard's part, and it doesn't work. Nobody races marathons at maximum RPE.

Calcuation of workload is a concept of taking rated effort (RPE) and multiplying this by duration of the workout to get workload. Richard's interpretation of RPE simply could not be used in this calculation since his already includes duration in his RPE value (mathematically, since his RPE is already 'effort*duration', his workload calculation would end up being effort*duration*duration . . . an improper workload calculation). My favorite exchange in that thread occured when I pointed out his inclusion of duration in his RPE rating and thus rendering it useless for normal workload calculatoin, clearly revealed by his quote: "How could a slower pace per mile end up being the same effort as a faster pace per mile? Because you ran the slower pace per mile for a longer duration, resulting in equal RPEs.". Richard, naturally, claimed otherwise, since this deflated his argument. He then presented this hilarious challenge to me: "Show me where I said RPE includes duration, without using my example above".

Classic Richard.

The Fallacy of Listening to Richard

The perposterous is the realm of Sir Richard's lair. Sometimes he outdoes even himself, to crest above the cream of lunacy, and present to his (rather limited) viewing audience a concept too ridiculous even for us to carry forward in hopes to hear yet more entertaining rubbish from Richard's fingertips.

In Richard's forum thread 'The Fallacy of Listening to Your Body', Richard attacks the rather common sense principal of recognizing when you're overdoing it, feeling sudden pain, etc. and cutting back (or off completely) to avoid jeapordizing your running future. This likely stems from Richard's own foray into 'high mileage' training (although he probably didn't break 50/week) and his own failure to 'listen to his body' and cut back when the warning signs flashed in big pink neon "STOP!". Richard presents us with an anecdote excavated from that bible of running philosophy, Runner's World, about a guy who trained for a marathon, and did a long run despite experiencing knee pain at the start. "there was a bit of pain in back just above the knee at the beginning of the run".

A bit of background, the subject of this story had never run a race before, and decided to run NYC on a whim. On a scale of 0-10 for injury likelihood, he flashed at 9+. In the end, he gets runner's knee (pretty common in this situation), loses training time, runs NYC anyway and suffers through it, etc. etc.

Richard takes this information and distorts it into a prime example of why 'listening to your body' doesn't work, and let's us know that the common statement 'Listen to your body' is a load of bunk. Interestingly enough, no alternative is presented. So we're left with being told we're to ignore warning signs of stress and discomfort and train anyway, because this seems to be the only real information we can draw from what Richard is saying.

According to Richard:

"So, what is a runner to do? Is there some way to detect in advance when overtraining or injury is knocking at the door? Candidly, I haven?t been able to find one. I do know, however, that when your primary method is ?listening to your body? you seem to be more likely to hear a siren?s song leading you to the cliffs of destruction and not dependable signals for avoiding injury."

Now, I don't know how everyone elses personal experiences have been, but I've found that my body is remarkably good at letting me know when I'm overdoing it. I've skirted problems and injury by paying attention to these little twinges and twangs that occur. I've learned which ones are red herrings that I can put to one side, which ones need immediate attention, and which ones mean adjust my training so I can still move forward with minimum risk.

Richard's interpretation of 'listening to your body':

"To me the term 'listening to your body' means the body is sending unique, detectable signals that overtraining and injury are imminent"

One could get picky here and point out that if overtraining and injury are imminent, then you can't avoid it anyway, since by definition imminent mean's it's about to happen. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't be imminent. That aside, the body can give all sorts of signals to you, but it's experience that's the tool that lets you decipher the meaning. An inexperienced runner, as presented in Richard's story, may not have correctly diagnosed his knee pain the first time around, but I'm pretty sure he'll have a clear idea of it the next time 'round.

I still shake my head trying to figure out what message Richard's trying to give us on this one. I can't even understand it from his normal stance of attacking what he calls 'conventional training wisdom'. It's just dumb all around.


Richard's now running around the net posting some info on a Running Times commentary regarding training volume to achieve certain marathon goals, like 2 1/2 hours, 3 hours and 4 hours.

He presents a quote and a chart:

"'While elites nearly universally run 100-120 miles/week in preparation for the marathon, how much you need to do depends mostly on your goals, which in turn are dependent on how much mileage you can handle without injury.'

Jonathan included 3 charts from 3 different authors - Jeff Galloway 1991, Mark Conover 1996, Mark Winitz 2003 - prescribing how much mileage for what time goal. Here is the breakdown of the recommendations for the 4 hour, 3 hour, and sub 2:30 hour marathoner.

4 hours: JG = 30-40 mpw, MC = 21-30 mpw, MW = 30-40 mpw
3 hours: JG = 45-55 mpw, MC = 35-50 mpw, MW = 60-75 mpw
sub 2:30: JG = 70+, MC = 54-85 mpw, MW = 80+ mpw"

A little note here that the prescribed volume is what they feel, on average, a person needs to achieve a marathon goal.

Richard tangents away in discussion of 'genetic talent':

"...the recommendations for mpw are completely consistent with 1) the belief that variations in genetic talent exist, 2) these large genetic differences result in large differences in weekly mileage producing optimal performance, and 3) the higher your genetic talent the more likely you are to be able to run higher weekly mileage and benefit from those higher weekly mileages.

The training recommendations in articles such as this are completely consistent with the belief that genetic talent exists and that the more talent one has the more likely that person is to be able to run high mileage and benefit from that higher weekly mileage."

Nothing in the article discusses 'genetic talent'. The volumes prescribed are only what they feel is necessary to run a marathon in those time goals, there's no mention nor discussion regarding what any person or group actually could be running or what potential they may have.

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And finally, let's take a peek at Richard's latest race efforts and see how 'Powerrunning' is working out for him:

Chuy's hot trot 5k, 2006 :

61 Richard Gibbens Austin TX 44 383 32:04.5 35:16.0 3:11.4
10:17/M

Chuy's hot trot 5k, 2005 :

46 Richard Gibbens Austin TX 43 314 28:11.1 28:51.0 0:39.9 9:02/M

Texas Round-up 10k, 2006:
11 Richard Gibbens Austin TX 44 33 56:58.00 58:02.00 01:04.00 9:10/M


Do note that Richard has in the past run in the 42's for 10k and considerably better than 29 min for 5k, so his Powerrunning theories are certainly not working for him.
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10. Jul 29, 2007 4:57 AM in response to: Richard99
The article was interesting in that it shows that there is some benefit to exercise at low aerobic stress.
I would think that these adaptations also take place if exercise is maintained for the same duration at higher aerobic load with the added benefit of aerobic development.
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13. Jul 29, 2007 2:26 PM in response to: Richard99
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Richard99:
For those of you who believe in and promote "aerobic base building" training there is something significant in the results of this study pertaining to the "aerobic base building" methodology. Would any of you "base builders" care to comment on it?

<HR>


Assuming the researcher's conclusions are correct the study indicates you can get significant muscular adaptations through easy running.

Kind of the opposite of what you usually advocate, isn't it Richard?
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14. Dec 26, 2007 5:01 AM in response to: Richard99
These adaptations are achieved in 8-10 weeks (6 runs a week).
After that the usefulness of that kind of running as the main part of your training has run its course and you need to work on other adaptations.



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