quote:<HR>Originally posted by runner4life52506:
i am running very high mileage right now i just bumped it up some more...my question is how long does it take to see results in my times to start dropping significantly??<HR>

There are no shortcuts. It is a long process and it all depends on how patient you are and what results you want.

60 to 88 won't effect you this week, but if you stay there for too long, your risk of injury will likely be very high due to the sudden increase.

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Actually, going from 60 to 88 miles is enough of a significant stress, that
your body will supercompensate for it, and if you drop the mileage in 3 weeks, you will be at a new level.

If you go from 60 to 85+ and it is all in singles (1 run a day) that is a very significant bump 42% in mileage. Of course if 60 was in singles and you add doubles to get to 85+ its still a 42 % increase in mileage, but the stress it creates and the benefits resulting from that stress are less than singles.

Well my average is 33 miles a week for the year.

I ran 50 last week and 18 so far this week so I will let you know if I improve.

I have run 50 mile weeks twice in my life and got sick both times. I may tone it down to 40 something miles this week. I really don't see how the increased miles can make you any slower. It will either make you faster or you will be tired and keep the same speed. I think you will be more physically fit though I do not see how you could not be.

Injury and burnout are definately there with 50% weekly increases in mileage. I agree that you should run doubles. Yesterday I run 7 in the AM and 2.5 in the PM but the night run was easy I felt great.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lannock:
Not I can help you personally, but I still think you're not giving enough info for anyone to help you. If you've been doing 60 mpw for the last 3 weeks after doing LESS than 60 before that then jumping up to 85-88 miles might be looking for trouble. The 10% rule is a good one to stick to and you're jumping almost 50% in one week. Ouch.

The other thing is: what are you training for? Pushing your mileage over 60 mpw won't give much (if any) benefit to your races below 15k or so. It also depends on where you are in your development. If you've already reached your peak increasing your mileage might slow you down.<HR>

he's young, most of the miles are easy, so the bump won't necessarily hurt. It's a bigger risk but I've done it and been ok. Just make sure every 3rd week or so is backed down.

I wholeheartedly disagree that you will not see benefits below 15K. You will not see benefits below 1500m maybe! I ran 60-80 mpw for several years, could not run under 15:37 5K despite nearly a dozen races in the 15:37-15:40 range. Aggravated me to no end. Late 2005 I started consistenly running ~100 mpw. In late January I ran 16:00 without tapering. Thru late March and early April I ran 6 of 8 weeks at 100+ mpw, tapered and ran about 15:48 for the first half of a 10K...and about 15:18 for the second half. Remember I was training for a marathon, not a 10K, so I was not doing any intervals shorter than 800m and the three weeks prior my intervals had been 2000m or 3000m repeats.

To answer the OP question, it may take 2-3 months. You may not notice until you cut mileage in the fall and start doing speedwork. About 3 weeks into your speedwork you may suddenly realize that you are flying in comparison to last year and it feels easier. It just takes patience.

If you get into this fall and don't get faster, well, that may be an indicator that for the winter you should just go ~70 mpw until you get faster and used to that before bumping up again. Remember that you get gains at every new level, so you can likely improve some at 70 mpw before bumping up again if need be.