active network espn
Community: Exchange advice in the forums and read running commentary Resources: Personal running log, calculators, links and other tools for runners News: Running news from around the world Training: Articles and advice about fitness, race training and injury prevention Races/Results: Find upcoming races and past results Home: The Cool Running homepage
Cool Running homepage  Search Cool Running Community
Login to Reply
1 2 Previous Next
Click to view Sapphire20216's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Nov 15, 2006

Aug 2, 2007 10:12 PM

True or False?

Does running at inclines make you faster on flat ground?
Click to view Diesel88's profile Pro 159 posts since
Sep 1, 2004
1. Aug 2, 2007 10:33 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
I would say no. The benefit would be limited to what you can do on inclines and the impact on your flat ground training would be less.

Running is one of those activities where if you want to evolve a specific aspect of it, you just 'do more' of what you want to get better at. In other words, the benefits a runner gets from the different (running related) training options available to them is only going to evolve that immediate aspect of the runner's ability.

For example, if you want to be able to run for a long time with tons of endurance, run long slow miles. If you want to have energy available for bursts of speed (say, for an Xterra type event)? Do tempo / speed work. Finally, if you want to get up those hills faster, run more hills and inclines.

That would be why cross-training (strength training, Yoga, swimming, etc.) is necessary to make you a better-rounded athlete.
Click to view coacht017's profile Pro 153 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Aug 2, 2007 10:40 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
false
Click to view tommy14277's profile Legend 205 posts since
Jun 20, 2006
3. Aug 2, 2007 10:42 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
I would say yes. Absolutely. Coaches have used hills as a form of speed work for runners for years. Hills build strength and strength will enable you to run faster on the flats. Don't take my word for it, just try it. The proof is in the pudding
Click to view angrek's profile Pro 127 posts since
Aug 14, 2007
4. Aug 2, 2007 10:42 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Diesel88:
I would say no.
<HR>


Check out serious training schedules. Most include hill runs. Just to give two quick examples, google the aggies 5K training schedule and Lydiard training.
Click to view Southern Man's profile Legend 757 posts since
Apr 19, 2006
5. Aug 2, 2007 10:47 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sapphire20216:
Does running at inclines make you faster on flat ground?<HR>


True. There is a higher aerobic cost to running uphill. Also running uphill builds lots of muscle strength.

If you are asking specifically if you should run all your runs on an inclined treadmill I think the answer then becomes quite complicated.

Southern Man

------------------
We're on a road to nowhere. Come on along.
Click to view ipsedixit's profile Amateur 32 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Aug 3, 2007 12:41 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sapphire20216:
Does running at inclines make you faster on flat ground?<HR>


Yes.

And so does running at declines (or downhill).
Click to view patdamak's profile Amateur 8 posts since
Aug 2, 2007
7. Aug 3, 2007 12:44 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
Its not really that running up hills or down hills makes you faster, they just make you stronger which in turn makes you faster. so i guess, yes it does make you faster.
Click to view Diesel88's profile Pro 159 posts since
Sep 1, 2004
8. Aug 3, 2007 9:00 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
quote:<HR>Originally posted by angrek:
Check out serious training schedules. Most include hill runs. Just to give two quick examples, google the aggies 5K training schedule and Lydiard training.

<HR>


Yes, they include hill runs....to improve the runner's ability to RUN HILLS which was the point of my response.

The effect on flat ground running - which is what the OP asked - is not as high.
Click to view MichiganFlyer's profile Legend 348 posts since
Dec 9, 2005
9. Aug 3, 2007 9:02 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
Yes but beware. I have been running with treadmill at 1% incline to mirror outside running. This hasn't really made me faster. It makes running outside more manageable but to really get the benefit of inclines I think I need to get the grade up to 5% or more and do intervals up and down hills.
Click to view fredurie's profile Legend 1,979 posts since
Aug 21, 2002
10. Aug 3, 2007 9:12 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
If you are a 4:30 miler, and you run downhill in 4 minutes,
your nervous system is being stimulated. As well, the muscle
contraction on a downhill is eccentric.
Click to view fredurie's profile Legend 1,979 posts since
Aug 21, 2002
11. Aug 3, 2007 9:17 AM in response to: Sapphire20216
Running Times

Pete Pfitzinger:

"1) Increased leg turnover will improve your acceleration and speed on the flat. Sprinters have used downhill running to improve leg speed for over 30 years. Your maximal stride rate is controlled by your neuromuscular system, and as with any other skill, quick leg turnover is best achieved through practice. Downhill training teaches your nervous system to let you run fast.

2) Improved downhill running performance. I remember running next to Bill Rodgers in many races over the years and watching helplessly as he ran away on the downhills. Bill was a great natural downhill runner, but he made downhills his personal lethal weapon by honing that skill during training. You can also gain an edge by improving your technique and confidence running downhill.

3) Reduced delayed-onset muscle soreness (DOMS). When running hard downhill, your muscles work eccentrically to resist the force of gravity, which causes microscopic damage to the muscle fibers and surrounding connective tissue. This leads to inflammation and muscle soreness that can last up to five days. Fortunately, training on downhills protects your muscles from subsequent damage and muscle soreness. The muscles don?t just repair, but are actually better able to handle future eccentric loading because of structural adaptations within the muscle. A session of downhill running every two to three weeks should be enough to maintain those adaptations."
Click to view obsessor's profile Legend 488 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
13. Aug 3, 2007 12:44 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Diesel88:
Yes, they include hill runs....to improve the runner's ability to RUN HILLS which was the point of my response.

The effect on flat ground running - which is what the OP asked - is not as high.

<HR>


Track athletes run hills. Up and down. At least, they do if they are interested in improving or acheiving any kind of competitive level.

Yes - running inclines makes you faster on flat ground, (and on the track.)
Click to view west rock boy's profile Expert 57 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
14. Aug 3, 2007 1:15 PM in response to: Sapphire20216
uphill running doesn't build speed ... it builds strength.