I don't know that NSAIDS would cause kidney cancer--they probably don't. However, there is not much doubt that they can damage the kidneys. I remember an attorney back in Phoenix who popped Advil before every run and ended up on dialysis, nearly losing his life in the process. The doctors said the damage was caused by inbuprofen. Although he survived, he had to give up running.



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I don't know that NSAIDS would cause kidney cancer--they probably don't. However, there is not much doubt that they can damage the kidneys. I remember an attorney back in Phoenix who popped Advil before every run and ended up on dialysis, nearly losing his life in the process. The doctors said the damage was caused by inbuprofen. Although he survived, he had to give up running.



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It's pretty clear why this happened. #1, he was doing it for every run, which is NOT how these drugs are supposed to be used. They are for acute pain, not chronic use. #2, he's taking it and then going for a run in a desert region!! Dehyrdation massively increases the risk of kidney damage. Combine the two......

Read the full label for ANY drug. You'll never take anything if you do that. It's a symptom of our litigious society.....put so many warnings on EVERYTHING that you never know where the real danger and risks lie.

I suffered from ITB so badly that I missed my Spring marathon. I was about 1 month away from it when it struck.

I have to say that I was tempted to just cover up the pain with some sort of pain killer just so that I could finish it. It would have been my first marathon, and I REALLY wanted it bad.
I finally got through the beurocracy of my insurance referals and got some really great physically therapy. I have to say that the foam roller was probably the biggest help.

Physical Thereapy would probably be the best thing for you, but if you don't want to wait through the Primary Care Physician referals, doctor's schedules, etc, or even just don't want to spend the money, your best bet is probably to buy a foam roller at your local Target store for about $25.

I have to warn you though... Foam rollers are quite painful when you first start using them. BUT, as impossible as this sounds, after using it regularly for a couple weeks it actually starts to feel good.

Now, I'm on back on schedule for my first marathon in October.

I wish you the best of luck. I'm truly sorry for your situation. I definitely feel your pain

Bill

In the case of NSAID inhibiting the healing process there are multiple studies some a few are Bruckner P.Clinical Sports Medicine. 1995 P 105 - 109
Greene,J. Cost conscious prescriping of non steriodal anti-inflammatory drugs for adult with arthritis,. Archives of internal medicine 19992 152 - 1995 - 2002
Almekinders,L. An in vitro investigation into the effects of repetitive motion and nonsteriodal anti inflammory medication on human tendon fobroblasts AJSM 1995 23: 119 - 123
Kulick,M Oral ibuprofen: evaluation of its effect on peritendinous adhesioons and the breakage strengthy of a tenorrhaphy. The journal of hand Surgery 1986 11A 100 - 119
There is a difference between pain relief and healing.
Again there are multiple studies on the effects of Omega 3s & 6s and their anti inflammatory capabilities
Two: LeeTH, Hoover RL,Williams JD et al Effect of dietary enrichment with eicosapentaenoic and docosahexaenoic acids on in vitro neutrophil and monocyte leukotriene generation and neutrophil function.N Engl J Med 1985: 312 1217 - 1224
Bucci LR Nutrition Applied to injury Rehabilitation and Sports medicine, CRC Press, Boca Raton 1994
Multiple studies exist on glucosamine sulfate and chondroitin sulfate most recent would probabaly be the GAIT study which was a fairly lengthly study the findings were released either last year or the year prior.
The study on cherries is from MSU DR Muraleedharan Nair. I don't have at hand but I am reasonably certain a similar study came out in the last two years either out of Canada or the UK.
Pub med and other related search engines are excellent places to research for the information and make your own informed decision on which way you want to go.
The thought is prolonged excessive use and/or misuse of NSAID demonstrate decreased DNA synthesis ( proliferative step in healing)
inhibit proteoglycan synthesis
GI bleeding and erosion may occur
HTN, CHF,hyperkalemia and renal insufficiency
Increased health costs, morbidity and mortality.
In this country we are too accustom to popping a pill to solve a problem or quick fixes regardless of long term consequences.
Play risk management with your training and racing be objective. Find out the root cause of your injury or reason for " excessive" muscle soreness. It usually is multifactorial.
Be proactive that can start in your warm up I like to use a technique with my runners called reciprocal inhibition stretching as you contract one muscle group the opposite muscle must relax to allow the motion we do everything from the foot on up to the neck. Since using this approach injuries have been reduced by 75% I believe we are correcting muscle imbalancies created from running, it also increases the core tissue temperature when preparing to start an active dynamic warmup.
The use of ice and ice baths particularily post race.
The importance of refueling within 15 min after a training run or race is critical to avoid being in a chronically depleted state. Two really good books are Edmund Burke's Optimal Muscle Recovery and John Ivy's Nutrient Timing this are cutting edge books in the field of performance nutrition.
Other great ideas like using a foam roller, roller ball or knuckler to give yourself periodic massages .
Foods to avoid when in an acute flare Red meat (beef, pork,lamb
Shellfish ( lobster, shrimp, clam)
Dairy (milk, the next one kills me because I am pretty sure i was a moouse in my past lifetime cheese
The above are thought to increase levels of arachidonic acid and proinflammatory agents.
Caffiene coffeee, tea, soda decrease levels of magnesium and calcium
Alcohol ( excessive) decreased levels of magnesium.
Just food for thought.

You always need to look at research design as there can be bias. But the multitude of research cannot be ignored. I very much doubt that all these researchers are in collusion to mislead the public. I agree we all need to look at internet or any information including that provided analytically . But to dismiss the benefits of healthy sensible nutrition and it's benefits towards health and it's role in injury prevention is ignorant and irresponsible.
Andy which thread are your referring to further down?

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ca marathoner

Which foods have pro-inflamatory properties that should be avoided?

thanks

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The most powerful pro-inflammatories (foods that can contribute to inflammation) are dairy fats and omega-6 fats (vegetable oils).

The more potent natural anti-inflammatories include fish oil.

I take Aleve b/c it works, and only when I have some kind of minor injury. My left hip flexor muscles were bothering me during my half marathon Sunday. Afterwards I decided on a week-long course of Aleve and ice. I recovered from my race just fine; I wouldn't say the NSAIDs inhibited my recovery. In general I don't put too much confidence in "studies."

I agree whole-heartedly that a healthy diet is the most overlooked aspect of training. I eat a lot of vegetables, a little meat (good iron & protein), lots of beans, quinoa and only whole-grain pasta. Plus fruits. Everything low-glycemic; I avoid simple sugars and saturated fats.

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What's the best over the counter Anti-inflammatory medicine I could get at a local drug store? I'm running my first half-marathon tomorrow and want to get something. I've been told Advil is pretty good but was wondering if there was anything better? Thanks<HR>

Below is a natural and very effective pain/inflammation reliever.

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