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Click to view aerialist's profile Amateur 37 posts since
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Aug 23, 2007 8:00 AM

5 miles, and the Asics 2110

Finally got to the point where I can semi-comfortably* run an even 5 miler after work. It took weeks of eeking up from 2 miles, to 3, and then plunging ahead for 5. Feels good, feels sore. : )

I've logged about 240 miles on my Asics 2110s and have no complaints. At what point should I schedule a fitting for new kicks? I'm not noticing any new pains--well, I am, but I think they're more related to my 5 miles than the shoes--but don't want to wait till I'm injured before I spring for new shoes.

Beyond the usual 250-500 mile rule, any tips specific for the 2110s? I'm F, 108 lbs, and I run silently on pavement.


* easier when the temperatures dropped, less fun when the humidity picked back up. ah well.
Click to view brianfie's profile Legend 316 posts since
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1. Dec 26, 2007 5:41 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
Get some new shoes now and gradually phase them in and the others out. You can do this over a very long period of time. The lifetime of shoes can be a self-fulfilling prediction. If you expect the shoes to cause dangerous twinges at mile 500, they probably will.

The actual lifetime of shoes will depend on a range of factors, including speed of running, running form, body weight, construction of the shoe, etc, as I can guess you realize from reading your question.

Just for reference, I am mid-foot lander, 165 lbs, 40-50 miles per week, running a lot of my miles around 10 min pace. I used my last pair for 1000 miles without bad effect.

Right now I have some newish shoes I use only one or two days per week. I have another pair of ASICS with 500 miles on them. They are still in good shape and I expect to get another 3-400 out of them, perhaps more.

-b

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Click to view lolly75's profile Pro 88 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Aug 23, 2007 8:42 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
The "500 mile" rule is for someone who is 120 pounds, running on a dry flat surface with a perfect gait.

Not me. I must have a retarded gait, I run often in teh rain, and I try to get in hills...

I have to replace about every 250 miles. I'll be running along and then OUCH! Shin splint and I stop and go get new shoes.

One of my friends didn't have pain, kept running... then her knee started having terrible trouble.

Another friend just orders new shoes on line everytime her shoes hit "200 miles"

It really depends on you. I wouldn't try to go 1000 miles... I think you're asking for trouble whether you feel it now or 10 years from now. I wouldn't go any more than 500, but listen to your body.
Click to view fuzz039's profile Pro 144 posts since
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4. Dec 26, 2007 5:41 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
quote:<HR>Originally posted by brianfie:
The actual lifetime of shoes will depend on a range of factors, including speed of running, running form, body weight, construction of the shoe, etc, as I can guess you realize from reading your question. <HR>
What he said...

In my experience there can be significant variation in durability between shoes from different manufacturers, between different models from the same manufacturer, and occasionally even between different revisions of the same shoe. For me, the low end is something like 250 miles and the high end seems to be around 500 to 600.

If I like the shoes I'm in and intend to replace them with the same model, I order a new pair when the current shoes get 300 or so miles on them. When the new shoes arrive I take them out for a spin. If the new shoes feel pretty much the same as the "old" shoes, I know the old shoes still have miles left in them. If not, the old shoes come out of the rotation regardless of mileage.

edited to add: FWIW, the Asics 2110 was my second-highest-mileage shoe ever, almost 600. A year after retiring them from service I still use them for yard work and the like. Built like tanks.


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Click to view Ksabbo's profile Pro 61 posts since
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5. Aug 23, 2007 9:18 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
quote:<HR> When the new shoes arrive I take them out for a spin. If the new shoes feel pretty much the same as the "old" shoes, I know the old shoes still have miles left in them. If not, the old shoes come out of the rotation regardless of mileage.<HR>



Great guage! I never thought of that!
Click to view isondd's profile Amateur 9 posts since
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6. Aug 23, 2007 11:50 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
I have just over 150 miles on a pair of Kayano 12's and bought another pair (in a different color - not that it should matter) for a marathon. I used the new pair for a 5 and 13 miler and then went back to the old for a 5. The old pair doesn't feel nearly as good as the new pair. Are the old ones shot or is it all in my head? I'm only 135 lbs so I don't think I wear them down too badly. I've got a pair of Foundations that have about 200 miles that still feel good. I'm ready to just put the new Kayano's away until marathon day.
Click to view Dana Becker's profile Legend 392 posts since
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7. Aug 23, 2007 11:59 AM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
I'm getting at least 400 miles out of my 2110's, which is a shock, as I'm used to maybe 300 on other brands. Since you weigh 80 pounds less than me you should get at least that much.
Click to view fuzz039's profile Pro 144 posts since
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8. Aug 23, 2007 12:38 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
quote:<HR>Originally posted by isondd:
I have just over 150 miles on a pair of Kayano 12's and bought another pair (in a different color - not that it should matter) for a marathon. I used the new pair for a 5 and 13 miler and then went back to the old for a 5. The old pair doesn't feel nearly as good as the new pair. Are the old ones shot or is it all in my head?<HR>
I've never had Kayanos and I'm not any sort of shoe guy, but they're reputed to be well-built, and 150 miles sounds low to me.

When comparing brand new to somewhat-used shoes, keep in mind the break-in period, if any. Some shoes require it, others not so much. If your Kayanos are in the former category you'd expect brand-new ones to feel a little different than older ones, even though the older shoes still are in good shape.

OK, I'll shut up now...
Click to view isondd's profile Amateur 9 posts since
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9. Aug 23, 2007 2:30 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
Thanks for the input - I'm pretty sure they're not shot but they definitely feel different - softer-more cushioned, not necessarily stiffer.
Click to view mutthound's profile Legend 306 posts since
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10. Aug 23, 2007 4:04 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
You found my favorite running shoe!!!!!!!!!

I have bought 4 pairs, including one last weekend at Sports Authority on the clearance rack.

If you can, go look for another pair on the clearance racks and try to get a pair or two for $50 or so.

I put 400 miles on the first pair before retiring them (and they still seemed to be in pretty good condition)

I have 260 on pair #2 so I will likely hang those up when I hit 400-450 miles.

the other two pair are for the next 6 months or so.

If I am 160 pounds and can put 400 miles on my asics, I would think that you could easily put 400 on yours, as i am likely putting 200 pounds of pressure more on my shoes per stride than you are.

BTW, what color are they?
Click to view Southern Man's profile Legend 757 posts since
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12. Aug 23, 2007 6:21 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
I got 400 out of my last pair of Asics (2090?). I am not twice your weight, but not far from it. I was rotating three pairs at the time. I think that helps some with the durability. Doubt your pain is related to your shoes.

Individual comfort and mileage does matter, so does the shoe.

I have currently run in the same pair of Nike Waffle Racers since the first of the year and have probably 1000 miles on them. I plan to wear them until the uppers tear off of the soles.

Southern Man



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Click to view brianfie's profile Legend 316 posts since
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13. Aug 23, 2007 7:31 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
I think the more cushion you have in the shoe the quicker they age. The cushioning gets permanently compressed with use, and so eventually you are not running on a level surface any more. If you put your hand inside the shoe you can feel how distorted it is.

If you are a neutral runner and choose non cushioned shoes you should not have to change shoes as often as others.

-b
Click to view ipsedixit's profile Amateur 32 posts since
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14. Aug 23, 2007 7:38 PM in response to: aerialist
Re: 5 miles, and the Asics 2110
quote:<HR>Originally posted by aerialist:
Finally got to the point where I can semi-comfortably* run an even 5 miler after work. It took weeks of eeking up from 2 miles, to 3, and then plunging ahead for 5. Feels good, feels sore. : )

I've logged about 240 miles on my Asics 2110s and have no complaints. At what point should I schedule a fitting for new kicks? I'm not noticing any new pains--well, I am, but I think they're more related to my 5 miles than the shoes--but don't want to wait till I'm injured before I spring for new shoes.

Beyond the usual 250-500 mile rule, any tips specific for the 2110s? I'm F, 108 lbs, and I run silently on pavement.


* easier when the temperatures dropped, less fun when the humidity picked back up. ah well.
<HR>


Don't be a slave to using the number of miles as a determining factor on when to change shoes.

Listen to your body.

Usually when your shoes need changing, you'll start noticing your joints and muscles aching a bit more than usual. Won't be anything that'll lead to injury, but you'll notice.

Things like knees being a bit more sore, quads tighter, ankles feel a bit off.

Change shoes then.

Good luck.