quote:<HR>Originally posted by catwoman73:
Hee, hee.... welcome to the wonderful world of LHR training! A world where you have to swallow your pride, suck it up and let little old men with walkers pass you by!

Seriously, though- there's lots of people out there who don't get the whole LHR training thing, or who have tried it and it hasn't worked for them. Really, it is all a big experiment for all of us. I started LHR training a couple of months ago, and have seen some good results so far. In addition to seeing more speed at lower HRs, I have eliminated the little aches and pains I had before, I have more energy, and I'm much healthier. That being said, the little setbacks with this strategy are really frustrating. I'm suffering from horrible allergies right now, and have had to really slow down to keep my HR under control. You will definitely become more self-aware training like this. You will come to understand how much even tiny little stressors in your life have a huge impact on performance. If nothing else, you'll be able to take that lesson away from this.

The only way to know if this is going to work for you is to commit to it, and stick with it faithfully for a few months. Read the WHOLE LHR training thread, including the links and FAQ. Ask lots of questions- there's lots of people who have been doing this for a long time on that thread- they've been a great source on info for me. Do your MAF tests every month to monitor your progress. Most of all- be patient. This is not a strategy that works quickly, but based on your history, it sounds like you could really benefit from giving it a try.
Good luck with your training!
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could not have said it better . . .

I would add, read other books and real articles (not the junk in the running mags or internet ads). Maffetone's stuff is great (he was the first to use heart monitors back in the 70s and really started the whole science of low heart training). Mark Allen is very inspirational (an nice aspect to incorporate), etc.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by JackieLeigh:
This DOES get easier right?

My run today was painful. My knees ached and I just wanted it to be done. I was slower today than the last time I did this same route. I have gone from a 9:20mm to a 12:50mm

I have a 12 mile run Saturday, it is going to take me FOREVER<HR>

I think this discussion has gone to the basebuilding/low heart rate/Maffetone thread elsewhere under basic training.

Train by time, not miles. An hour run is an hour run, it doesn't matter how far it is. What matters is what you're training your body to do (in this case, burn more fat and get faster).

quote:<HR>Originally posted by JackieLeigh:
This DOES get easier right?

My run today was painful. My knees ached and I just wanted it to be done. I was slower today than the last time I did this same route. I have gone from a 9:20mm to a 12:50mm

I have a 12 mile run Saturday, it is going to take me FOREVER<HR>

It does get better, but it takes a REALLY long time. I actually cancelled my race plans for this fall when I started to see results with LHR training. I didn't want to jeopardize my progress, and wanted to commit to a minimum of 6 months of LHR training before racing again. I'm not saying you should do the same, but perhaps you should take a break from racing after your marathon.

I had all sorts of aches and pains when I started as well. Mostly my calves. As long as what you are experiencing qualifies as minor aches and pains vs. an all-out injury, don't worry about it too much. That part gets better, too.

Please- check out the basebuilding thread on this forum. You'll get lots of support there from people who are going through the same things.

BTW- my last 12 mile run- 2:20:56; my last HM (pre-LHR training)- 1:56:03. Ugh. I know how you feel.

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