Thanx aharmer. I'll pay more attention to keeping my blood sugar up. I'm avging 12:10 per mile for 16 miles (taking a fast walk break every 10 min. I'm nowhere in a league w/most of you guys! Expecting to finish under the 6hr.limit. This will be my first M. @ 61yrs. My avg for 5K is 8:00, 10K is 9:00 and 1/2M is 11:00 Will a long run of 20 miles be enough before tapering down 3 - 4 wks out?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mongo2000:
Training for the Hartford Marathon (my first) April 13th. Been building my long run mileage 1 0r 2 miles per week. All "Dark Territory" after 1/2 Marathon. Today I did about 171/2 miles but somewhere around mile 16 I neglected to take a necessary rt.turn and did'nd realize it for at least a mile. Got lost and had to call the wife. Noticed that as I talked to her I CONTINUED jogging in the same (wrong) direction. Has this happened to others? Also, what about the lower body pain that settles in about 15 miles? (When walking is as painful as running). I maintain gatorade stops every 2 miles and Accelerade at 10 miles so I don't think its dehyd/elect.related.<HR>

What are you doing, drinking gatorade every 2 miles. For every sip of gatorade you take, you need 4 sip of water. Use a ratio of 1:4

Too much gatorade and you'll get very sick.

I assume you drink gatorade because you called it 'maintain gatorade stops'

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abadabajev:
What are you doing, drinking gatorade every 2 miles. For every sip of gatorade you take, you need 4 sip of water. Use a ratio of 1:4

Too much gatorade and you'll get very sick.


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This is simply not true. You do not need a 1:4 ratio. Gatorade makes some sick, but not all.

Where do you get information like this?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abadabajev:
Go ahead TechTee, go run 17 1/2 miles and load up on gatorade every 2 miles plus accelorate at mile 10. Tell me how you feel when you finish your run.

Then come back here and inform us of your conclusion.

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What may be true for you isn't true for everyone pal.

As for the Gatorade experiment, I have run marathons and drank Gatorade every waterstop, which were about 1 1/2 miles apart. I did not get sick. Maybe you do, but you're not everyone.

Your post (although the original one did mention Accelerate sic did not mention it, however I find it very hard to believe that one more type of drink is going to make that much of a difference, epescially since everything in Gatorade is already in Accelerade.

No, I did not drink Accelerade during the marathons, although I have drunk it many times during runs and have never gotten sick.

You never answered the question regarding a 1:4 ratio of Gatorade to water. Where did you get that? Just ignoring it because you have no facts to back it up?

Admit it. You either have no idea what you're talking about, or are going off your own experiences and forgot to put "in my experience" or "in my opinion".

Don't get bent out of shape at me because your post is wrong or lacking in facts (in my opinion).

I got lost on a long run in Central park once on a route I had probably run 100 times.

Besides all the 'discussion' about gatorade etc, this thread poses some interesting issues I relate to....I am also training for my first marathon in miami jan. '08. My level of ability is at about the same as Mongo's....and I'm currently working on increasing the length of my long runs....I don't particularly care how long it takes, what I'm interested in right now is just increasing the length for 'time on my feet'- to meet the goal of endurance.

I can see how it gets to be a more mental game after 10-12 miles.....my last longest run was 16...and I had the same type of experience...plus the heat in S. FL, which really contributed to lots of mental confabulation.
Since I tend to have hypoglycemic, learning how to fuel myself on longer runs has become a real research issue for me. Do to the marathon I'm looking at the longer time range, surely 5+ hours. How do I possibly keep myself fueled, without too much "bonking", crashing or other sugar or fuel related issues taking me out?

I haven't tried gels. I usually pack rolls of dried fruit and powdered gatorade I can mix in water at whatever dilution seems reasonable at the time. I doubt this is enough. I am female, 5'4" and 110#....

I appreciate the collective wisdom on this site. any feedback is welcome!