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Click to view msvaughan038's profile Amateur 34 posts since
Oct 2, 2006

Sep 17, 2007 10:33 AM

What should hold me back on speed training? Lungs or legs?

I have been running a couple years now and I have never been coached, I did not run in high school or college. Speedwork is very new to me and I am taking it slowly. I am now 5 weeks into a 10 week training program for a half marathon at the end of October. This past week had some hard intervals and a hard tempo runs. This left me fairly tired for Saturday's "Race Simulation" run. Really for the first time on this trianing program, I felt my legs were what was holding me back on my run Saturday, not my lungs or cardivacular system. Normally, for me, my legs can push harder than my cardio system can keep up. Is that the norm for eveybody?

Will pushing to max Vo2 on intervals help more with my cardio system? I guess I am having a hard time figuring out where to push my pace to make me be faster and bring my goals times down. Any help or insight is appreciated.
Click to view rlemert's profile Legend 250 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
1. Sep 17, 2007 10:39 AM in response to: msvaughan038
About a year ago (I think), Runner's World had a brief column on how to adjust your training depending on whether it was your legs or your lungs that were your perceived weak point. For the life of me I can't remember which way they suggested you. I'm thinking increased intervals and hills if you needed stronger legs and increased miles if you needed stronger lungs, but I could be wrong. (Which I'm sure people will be more than happy to point out if that's the case.)
Click to view leemantodd's profile Amateur 38 posts since
Jul 31, 2002
2. Sep 17, 2007 10:48 AM in response to: msvaughan038
Can you give us a little more info?
Personal - Age, height, weight, mileage base prior to training
Typical training week w/ paces
Any recent race times
etc.

This will really help everybody give you better feedback.
Click to view jme32's profile Rookie 6 posts since
Aug 13, 2007
4. Sep 18, 2007 3:10 PM in response to: msvaughan038
rlemert

About a year ago (I think), Runner's World had a brief column on how to adjust your training depending on whether it was your legs or your lungs that were your perceived weak point. For the life of me I can't remember which way they suggested you. I'm thinking increased intervals and hills if you needed stronger legs and increased miles if you needed stronger lungs, but I could be wrong. (Which I'm sure people will be more than happy to point out if that's the case.)

Thats funny I was just going back over some old RW magazines and read this article last night. It was in the November '05 issue...

FOR AEROBIC WEAKNESS (LEGS)
1- 4-5 x 1 mile @ 10k pace w/ 3:00-4:00 recovery
2- 8-10 mile power run @ marathon pace
3- 1.5-2 hour run on the weekend

FOR ANAEROBIC WEAKNESS (HEART AND LUNGS)
1- 6x800m @ 3k pace w/ 2:30 recovery
2- 8-10 x 400m @ mile race pace w/ 90 seconds recovery
3- 16x200m @ mile race pace w/ 60 second recovery
Click to view tigger077's profile Legend 691 posts since
Nov 19, 1999
5. Sep 18, 2007 4:30 PM in response to: msvaughan038
The correct answer is neither. It should be your head.

Proper training means each training session has goals or objectives. Each session is then done according to the principles that will best accomplish the goals. If you as a runner don't understand your training objectives then you are not optimizing your results and/or you may be training too hard. I recommend you purchase and read "Running Formula" by Jack Daniels as an intro to the entire subject of training.