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Oct 8, 2007 1:36 PM

Can I rely on water stations at marathons

While training, I use a fuel belt filled with water and gatorade for my long runs but hate the "heaviness". About to run MCM and would love to run without it but running buddies have filled me with horror stories of marathons where they ran out of water and gatorade (or whatever sports drink being offered). Ran White Rock in Dallas last December. Had to be one of just a handful that wore a fuel belt. Water and gatorade (or whatever) was plentiful. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Dec 14, 2007
1. Oct 8, 2007 1:39 PM in response to: Guest
No advice, but glad to hear that White Rock had plenty of fluids. I'm doing that one in nine weeks (!). Did they also hand out gel packs? Sorry if that seems like a weird question...at San Antonio last year they handed out hammer gel at all the stops, which was great for me, as that's what I use.

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Click to view LewJ's profile Pro 149 posts since
Feb 13, 2006
2. Oct 8, 2007 2:02 PM in response to: Guest
I'm no expert at such matters but two things come to mind.

First is that people's experiences seem to vary depending upon where in the pack they are. Those running nearer the front of the pack seem to have fewer issues with supplies than those running nearer the tail of the pack. This means you need to weigh others comments based on where they likely were in the pack and where you anticipate being.

Don't forget to factor in details like if there's a half-marathon at the same time, watch out of the HM course shares the latter part of the full marathon course. That in combination with the heat really screwed a lot of full marathon runners at the 2007 ING Georgia marathon. The HM runners in the heat overwhelmed some of the later water stops leaving little for the full marathon runners coming later.

The other is that weather seems to play a big role -- when the weather is hotter than anticipated there seem to be more frequently a problem with water and sports-drink supplies.

I would also look at http://www.marathonguide.com/[/URL" target="_blank"> to see what people have said about prior years. Some marathons seems to be more organized than others. These reviews and your own estimates of the temperatures in relation to "normal" ought to help form a decision.

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Nov 14, 2004
3. Oct 8, 2007 5:46 PM in response to: Guest
What containers is water usually dispensed in at marathons ? Is it cups, so that you need to drink it pretty fast or spill it all over yourself ? Or bottles, so that one can carry it for a mile or so ?
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Oct 18, 2007
4. Oct 8, 2007 5:58 PM in response to: Guest
Ummmmm....after my experience yesterday (Chicago), my answer would be NO you cannot rely on water stops at marathons. That being said, I still doubt I will carry water at the Houston marathon next year, assuming the temps are ok. If it is hot, I will carry my own.

Look and see how many aid stations they are planning on having. Chicago had 15 and that was not nearly enough for yesterday's conditions. Some were as far apart as 2.6 miles. When you are on the slow side, like me, that can be close to 30 minutes without water. I carried a 24 oz bottle in my hand that lasted about the first 8 miles, but then I was at the mercy of the course and it was pretty rough!
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5. Oct 8, 2007 6:05 PM in response to: Guest
Water in marathons is served in cups unless you are an elite, in which case you can get your own bottle with your own special fluid.

There are usually plenty of water stops in the marathon, but that should be available on the web site. Sometimes there are problems with water in hot weather (like yesterday in Chicago) but usually the larger problem is that it is hard for all the participants to get to the tables. Also worth noting is if and how water is distinguished from gatorade or the like. At some races, for instance, water is served first and gatorade second or vice versa. That is worth figuring out prior to the race.

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Aug 26, 2007
6. Oct 8, 2007 6:37 PM in response to: Guest
I am running MCM too, and was wondering the same thing, since it's going to be such a big/crowded race.

Personally, I use gels and water instead of Gatorade, so I plan to take a couple of gels along with me. Hopefully there will at least be enough water.

Good luck!
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Nov 24, 2005
7. Oct 8, 2007 7:16 PM in response to: Guest
I'm also running MCM... and after training in the heat all summer in Arizona, I've come to rely quite heavily on having water within easy reach. I've used a Camelbak all summer. And like another poster, I just use water and gels. I guess I'm going to wait and see what the weather is doing...
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Aug 26, 2007
8. Oct 8, 2007 7:40 PM in response to: Guest
Anyone know what kind of weather to expect at MCM? I am new to the area and don't really know the possibilities ...

They are supposed to be handing out sport beans somewhere in the last third (maybe around mile 20?).

I use a Camelbak on long runs too, but it chafes at the back of my neck (on one of my vertebrae). Body glide doesn't seem to help. So, I really don't want to use it in the race.
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9. Oct 8, 2007 7:49 PM in response to: Guest
Thanks to all that posted. I think I'm going to wait and see. I'm a slow runner so it might be a good thing to wear the belt and have the water with me. I too have just been drinking water with gels, no gatorade. I'm from the South and have been training in the heat and it's been tough. Definitely will keep eye on weather.

As for gels at White Rock, they did hand out Clif Shots, I think, at a couple stations.
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Apr 19, 2006
10. Oct 8, 2007 8:07 PM in response to: Guest
quote:<HR>Originally posted by tss1201:
Anyone know what kind of weather to expect at MCM? I am new to the area and don't really know the possibilities ...
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Too far out to say. This weekend is going to be perfect, lows in the low 40s and highs in the 60s.

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Dec 17, 2006
11. Oct 8, 2007 10:52 PM in response to: Guest
I ran Portland yesterday and I have to say it was very well organized. I believe there were 19 stations. The pattern was Ultima, Gleukos then Water. Water was always in a blue and white cup and the volunteers continually shouted the contents.
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Apr 28, 2006
12. Oct 9, 2007 1:32 AM in response to: Guest
I'd say that it is a good skill to have to be able to run while carrying your own fluids. In cool weather with a well supported race there is little need to carry your own stuff. But as soon as you know the temp may be high enough so you won't be runnng a PR anyway, one option to think about is carrying more.

It doesn't have to be something like Chicago, any warm day may make it worthwhile. Sure, toting along a few pounds of fluids will add a couple of minutes to your time, but cramping because of dehydration will add 10/20/30 minutes. You may also choose to contrast those few minutes against the likely crush at water stops on hot days: pretty likely that you may lose 30 seconds per.

What I'm suggesting is that being comfortable running with a good fluid supply, and then making the tactical decision to carry it the night before a warm race day may be wise.

The other thing I do in races with a lot of congestion near the start is to carry a "throwdown bottle." I just buy a cheap 16oz bottle of water in a sports type bottle, and then refill it with my fave race drink. I suck it down during the first 4-5 miles and breeze through the first few water stops on the side away from the congestion. Then as the field thins out, I chuck the bottle and drink as normal.



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Oct 13, 2007
13. Oct 9, 2007 12:40 PM in response to: Guest
quote:<HR>Originally posted by mrrunforfun:
While training, I use a fuel belt filled with water and gatorade for my long runs but hate the "heaviness". <HR>

I dislike the "heaviness" too, but always wear my Nathan belt during runs/races of 10K or more because;
a) I prefer my own, filtered water
b) I prefer HEED to Gatorade
c) I never want to fall victim to the problem of insufficient water.

And after seeing the fiasco in Chicago, and hearing of other nightmares I'll continue to put up with the mild discomfort of carrying my own water/electrolyte/gel etc.



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Aug 15, 2007
14. Oct 9, 2007 12:58 PM in response to: Guest
I am thinking after Chicago Sunday the fall marathons coming up will have plenty of water.