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15 Replies Last post: Nov 5, 2007 12:38 PM by dg12002   1 2 Previous Next
Click to view RunnersHigh's profile Legend 259 posts since
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Nov 3, 2007 8:27 AM

Ryan Hall...WOW!

Unbelievable, I never saw anyone look so fresh with miles to go. He was awesome! We're looking good for the Olympics!!!!
Click to view Alex Nichols's profile Legend 439 posts since
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1. Nov 3, 2007 8:31 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
Re: Ryan Hall...WOW!
It is amazing to see him and Ritz being so young and with so much potential. I hope Ritz chooses the marathon.
Click to view RacingThoughts's profile Pro 109 posts since
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2. Nov 3, 2007 12:00 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Ryan Hall was awesome today... I hope he can walk in Frank Shorters footsteps.
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4. Nov 3, 2007 2:42 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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I know what you mean on both respects. My friend and I were around mile 24? or 25? and we didn't hear anything...when we both saw Hall go by he had this look in his face like he knew he had it in the bag. We both left pretty geeked after the race...and now what a crashing low...
Click to view runawayjesse's profile Legend 538 posts since
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5. Nov 3, 2007 3:38 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Yeah thats awsome. Brain sell is my idol though. Working class guy with children and a family putting in 160 miles per week in the mornings before work. He maintains a physical job on top of his training. Thats what impresses me.
Click to view Kevin E. Stroud's profile Legend 512 posts since
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6. Nov 3, 2007 6:43 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Hall was, what?, 30 seconds off his debut time at London - and on a hilly, windy course.

And he didn't just "win" - he DOMINATED a fairly decent (by world standards) field by more than two minutes.

While I don't think "the rest of the world" are quite quaking in their racing flats, that HAS to have raised some eyebrows.

Now we wait 10 months to see what the heat of Beijing does to the field...

kestrou
Click to view Southern Man's profile Legend 757 posts since
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7. Nov 3, 2007 7:18 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Hall and Ritz are 25. That is not very young on the world scene. Western marathoners tend to peak later than the East Africans, but there are a slew of Kenyans who are younger than Hall who are as fast as he is or very close. Marathoners in general can run fast at a late age. Perhaps he will go on to do great things. He certainly is exciting to watch as a front-runner.

I'm excited too, but let's not overstate the young angle.

Southern Man



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Click to view dcv2002's profile Legend 259 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
8. Nov 3, 2007 7:31 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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I was there today and Ryan looked like he was jogging most of the race. He was just toying with them. He could have run low 2:08 if he wanted. Saw Bernard Lagat and Bill Rogers running around the park watching the race. Unfortunately, saw the ambulance also. Still have a pit in my stomach after such a wonderful race.
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9. Nov 4, 2007 2:28 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Watching his run to the finish gave me goosebumps
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10. Nov 4, 2007 4:50 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
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I think Ryan Hall wins Gold next year
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11. Nov 4, 2007 6:35 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
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The heat of Beijing will make the Olympics extremely hard to predict.

What amazed me most about Hall's run yesterday was the 1:02:45 2nd half split on that challenging course while running by himself for most of it.

He ran a great race I thought. My hats off to Ritz for a great race too. And of course Sell...I couldn't be happier that he made it.
Click to view Kevin E. Stroud's profile Legend 512 posts since
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12. Nov 4, 2007 7:38 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
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I'm not ready to go predicting Gold for Hall next August - he's good, but has yet to prove he's "toe to toe" with the very best of the World. I think he can make it, but there's still some AWESOME runners out there.

Yeah - I noticed that split time too - now THAT LOOKED GOOD!

And you just can't give enough props to the Hanson/Brooks team - 13 out of 131 runners (call it 10%) were in their red/yellow/black Jerseys. Now there's a training team that's producing results on a very wide basis.

kestrou
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13. Nov 4, 2007 8:11 AM in response to: RunnersHigh
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Here's a complete hypothetical for those that like numbers. I use a formula that predicts a person's ideal marathon time for a specific day and course. You input your first half time and final time, and the formula will spit out what you could have run on that day and that course if you'd run perfect splits. Kind of a masochistic thing that tells you what you could have done that day if you hadn't been stupid and gone out too fast

It's completely unscientific and hypothetical, but uses the ratio of every second that you run too fast over the first half, you give back two seconds the second half. I've plugged dozens of marathon performances into this and it is surprisingly accurate. Most people see their "ideal" number and say 'yeah, that's the shape I thought I was in if I ran smart'.

I can't remember where it came from originally, but the theory claimed that a negative split would contain the same ratio. Running negative split would cause you to leave time on the course in the same manner as going out too fast. Plugging Hall's numbers in you get 2:07:50.
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14. Nov 5, 2007 12:26 PM in response to: RunnersHigh
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I'm following Ryan Hall's Half marathon training program for my first half, in December, and I always pretend I'm channeling his ability by doing the program, LOL. Maybe I'll finish my first half in a little over an hour, LOL. Hey - I followed his training program - why not?

I have the trials on my TiVo - can't wait to watch - and I didn't know someone died. Scary!