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Click to view michaelsledge's profile Amateur 18 posts since
Aug 15, 2007

Nov 4, 2007 9:51 PM

should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?

I'm getting to the end of my training for my first half marathon (Memphis - 12/1) and am way ahead of my training schedule. I've actually converted to training for a full marathon in January and am on track. This would be my first marathon and it is a local marathon and there may only be a few hundred entrants. Should I run this as my first marathon, or should I pass on it and save my first for one of the big marathons like Chicago or Marine Corps? I wonder if I'll need the excitement of the crowd to help me get through those last few miles.
Click to view dallasdig's profile Amateur 19 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
1. Nov 4, 2007 9:59 PM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
St. Jude in Memphis is not a "small marathon" is it? I thought they get 5,000-10,000.
Click to view QuickSilver096's profile Pro 188 posts since
May 23, 2007
3. Nov 4, 2007 10:18 PM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
Hi mbs,

If you train well enough, you shouldn't need the crowds. However, spectator support can do wonders for motivation. Stretches without spectators can seem very long indeed.

Good job with the training. And good luck!

QS
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Dec 14, 2007
4. Nov 4, 2007 11:12 PM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
There are a lot of good things about starting with a small marathon, provided that it's well-run...Your family and cheering squad can probably see you multiple times along the course, which they can never do at the biggies. You also avoid the mass of large marathon logistics, which may have you going to the course (and getting anxious) several hours beforehand. And if you put your name on your shirt, the fans will cheer specifically for YOU, rather than for the collective racers, which can make you feel awesome. I did Cape Cod (about 1,000 marathoners) first, and Boston second, and think I enjoyed Boston more because it WAS my second.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
Click to view azza074's profile Pro 69 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Nov 4, 2007 11:12 PM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
It depends if you like crowds or not. Some of my friends absolutely hate big city races, because the crowds make it more difficult to race properly. Personally, I love the huge events, and both my first half and full were major city races - but, my best times have come from smaller local races, where the lack of crowds make it easier to hit your stride earlier (and less weaving through the crowds).

It depends entirely what your after, but I would vote for the big experience for your first time out.

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Click to view SLOjim's profile Legend 369 posts since
Nov 17, 2007
6. Dec 26, 2007 7:21 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
Lots of advantages and disadvantages to small and big races.... you have to decide whats going to work best for you.

Your projected finishing time could be a factor in choosing a race. If you pick a competitive small race and you're running a 5 to 6 hour marathon, those last miles could get very lonely out there.

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Click to view PSU_Deb's profile Pro 74 posts since
Nov 7, 2007
7. Nov 5, 2007 9:40 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
As the other posters have said, there are advantages and disadvantages either way. I recently ran my first marathon and it was Marine Corps. While for the most part the crowds were awesome, it was still a bit lonely in spots. It was also quite a walk from our hotel to the start. One particular negative that I wasn't prepared for was the problems at the end caused by people walking. I finished in 4:48, and the last few miles were very challenging because so many people were slowing down and walking or shuffling. I was still running, but tired, and it was really hard to maneuver around everyone.

You'll be able to finish with or without crowds as long as you train well. Good luck on whichever race you decide on!
Click to view ORBrewDad's profile Pro 113 posts since
Apr 17, 2006
8. Nov 5, 2007 10:41 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
I don't want to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but you might want to consider postponing any marathon until spring. I don't know your running history, or your current mileage, but unless you've been putting in solid mileage for at least a year you could be asking for trouble running your first half and then a marathon the very next month.

Unless your goal is to "just finish" the marathon, or you've been racing for a few years and are just now moving up in the distance, you won't really have enough time to recover from your half and get a decent taper before your marathon.

Back to your original question, I would split the difference and run a mid sized city marathon for my first. I ran Portland for my first and it provided good spectator support and a manageable sized filed of runners (about 9000 across the multiple events).
Click to view HMhopeful's profile Expert 40 posts since
Dec 11, 2007
9. Nov 5, 2007 11:04 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
One other thing to consider about smaller races is if you a slower runner like me would you be ok being the 'sweep', with the escort vehicle right behind you. This happened on my first 10 miler and I did not like it very much.

I find that typically on the smaller races, the only folks running it are fairly experienced folks using the race as a tune-up to some other major race. So while you might be a mid packer in a major race, you might be the back of the back packer in smaller ones.
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10. Dec 26, 2007 7:21 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
Like everybody said, it depends on what you like. If you think running with other people and cheering crowds will help you (maybe you don't like doing long runs solo), then a bigger marathon might be more fun. If you do a lot of your training by yourself and have no problem with motivation when it's just you, then a small marathon can have it's charms as well.

Also, a lot can depend on what you like. Bigger marathons tend to have better pre-race amenities like expos, speakers, etc. Smaller marathons may not have anything but a race packet pickup the morning of the race! On the other hand, at a big marathon you may have to reach the staging area very early in the morning to get ready whereas at a smaller marathon you can often just show up just a little before the start (good if like me you're not a morning person).

Local marathons can be good if you prefer things to go a little more smoothly as you can probably sleep in your own bed, not have to worry about travel, etc. However a big marathon in another town can be made into a fun vacation, though depending on how your race goes, you may not want to do too much walking tourism afterwards... Either way you choose, good luck and have fun!



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Click to view maryt091's profile Legend 806 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
11. Nov 6, 2007 6:06 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
All of the comments are good, and it really depends on what you want. Personally I prefer smaller races regardless of distance, so long as there are at least some runners at my speed - to the megaraces where you can hardly move without bumping into the runner next to you.

Can you get last year's results for the small marathon? Crowd support helps, but the presence of other runners around you helps a lot as well. For your first marathon, it's good to have one big enough that you know you will have plenty of company out there running with you. Sometimes small races have a lot of runners at all speeds, but sometimes they attract primarily the faster runners and being a straggler or way back of the packer is probably not the best idea for your first. You should be able to get results so you can see how many runners and how fast the finish times were.
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12. Dec 26, 2007 7:21 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
I don't think it really matters, the fact of the matter is that you're finally running a marathon. Instead of wondering if it should be a "big" marathon or not, focus on running it in a location that you really like. You may get more out of it that way.

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13. Nov 6, 2007 7:21 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
I have been a straggler in a small local 25k but it's on one of my favorite running routes--a measured bike path in Fairmount Park--and I love it whatever place I come in... there are always people I know and it's a friendly kind of race. When I have run the Philly Marathon, I have to admit I prefer the parts of it that go through Fairmount Park even tho crowd support isn't as much there as in the city. But I'm not a crowd person, so YMMV.

I've enjoyed the big events--NYCM, Boston--but the small ones have a flavor all their own. Even finishing at the back in a small event, if it's the right kind of small event, you'll have people hanging out waiting for everyone to come in and cheering for you.

Plus, sometimes you can win an award in smaller races even if you don't turn in a fast time. In the 25k, maybe just b/c I'm in the women's 50s age group and this is a sparsely populated group in this race, I find myself still getting awards, despite my time. I'd run this race, award or no, b/c I have a lot of medals and such, but still it's kinda fun to hear one's name called for an award, especially when you win one for the first time.

Also, you might want to consider ORBrewDad's advice if you're fairly new to the game. If you're feeling pretty good and comfortable w/ your long runs, not getting injured, maybe it's fine, and you can go for it, but also be aware of the stress on your body and be flexible in your planning. There's no need to hurry into a marathon. As you're seeing in the various posts, there are lots of choices.

Whatever you decide, good luck in your training and racing!
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Nov 1, 2005
14. Nov 6, 2007 10:13 AM in response to: michaelsledge
Re: should I save my first marathon for a "big" one?
Wait until you get married.