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30. Nov 22, 2007 10:22 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Streetlife:
Are you sure this is what HE wants?
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Gulp (!!!!!)
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31. Nov 22, 2007 10:42 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
As a kid i used to run and bike literally all day every day. No water, little food, just mulberrys, spring onions, whatever was in season, until getting home for dinner. I don't know how I made it, all that activity, and no parental contact for 8-9 hours a day. I guess modern children would perish from what some of you are saying in this thread. I say way to go, I would have loved to have a parent that was willing to run and do outdoor stuff with me. I also had to push mow 1.5 acres every week at this kids age, as well as other chores on our farm, I guess that would be child abuse now. Stop being such wusses.
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32. Nov 22, 2007 11:00 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
As long as his HR not goes out of 170, and nothing hurts (muscle sorenes does not count), he should be prefectly fine.

As for higher pulse, it should not be for more than 30 sec at time with at least 1 min breaks, not more than twice a week.

Remember - he will feel pain if something is bad for him. He just should not feel that he dissapoints you if he tells you about it.
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33. Nov 22, 2007 11:16 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
I'm not surprised that a lot of people think it's a bad idea that a 9 year old runs everyday.
What surprises me is that they are here in this forum.


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34. Nov 22, 2007 11:24 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by monstrous:
As a kid i used to run and bike literally all day every day. No water, little food, just mulberrys, spring onions, whatever was in season, until getting home for dinner. I don't know how I made it, all that activity, and no parental contact for 8-9 hours a day. I guess modern children would perish from what some of you are saying in this thread. I say way to go.<HR>


yepper. they're kids...let 'em run
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35. Nov 22, 2007 2:42 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
QUOTEOriginally posted by canadamike:
[B]I'm not surprised that a lot of people think it's a bad idea that a 9 year old runs everyday.
What surprises me is that they are here in this forum.


Because running is suppose to be healthy, not detrimental to the body. That's why we run and why we raise concern.
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36. Dec 26, 2007 7:52 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by SeeFritzRun:

From the last paragraph: "Many easy-does-it programs for kids in this age group are centered around the mile, whether it's building up to run a mile a day or racing a mile."
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Big deal. Many "easy-does-it programs" focus on the mile. How many don't? Why not 2 miles. Why not 1/2 mile? Was a study done? Are there more advanced (non-easy-does-it) programs for different levels of fitness?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by SeeFritzRun:

So, anything over a mile?
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Are you guessing? Thought so.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by SeeFritzRun:

And I hardly think that information will be useless to the original poster.
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It's still useless to me.


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37. Nov 22, 2007 6:15 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JimR:
yepper. they're kids...let 'em run<HR>


Watch kids run. They don't run non-stop.

The other posters who said they ran and biked and mowed the lawn don't get the point. What they did was perfect. The concern is that running long distances without a break (2 miles may be a long distance for a nine year-old) may not be good for them. General exercise, even hard exercise, can be.

If I had kids I'd take my child running 2 or 3 times a week or when they asked me. But every day?

I don't know whether its good or bad for the kid but why take the risk?
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38. Nov 22, 2007 6:34 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by shertz:
I know this because WebMD and my pediatrician(I asked the other day at my sons dr. appt) tell me so. Unfortunately kids are out of shape but it has less to do with exercise and more to do with nutrition. My son is as fit as any and he has no running streaks but eats a healthy diet free of McDonalds. A running streak is a great achievement but a diet free of fast food and junk for 100 days would be healthier and greater! Believe it or not, kids still get plenty of exercise, contrary to Fox News reports who try to steer blame away from big corporations. <HR>


I think you and all the health pros you speak of are just making things up as you go along. I would have you know that in many countries outside of North America (less so now a days) Kids run play football (Soccer), Cricket (strange game), field hockey etc. every single day of their lives and in some case do run more than 5 miles on many days of the week. I have never heard about the amount of physical activity causing a problem. Many kids grow up where they have to travel two or more miles to school and take my word for it many run the distance either way every day. I grew up in an area where kids would play on the way home running back and forth over parts of their journey making a two mile trek into a three mile trek.
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39. Nov 22, 2007 8:49 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
In my opinion the point is much more that running, actual "jogging" which is just repetitive running non stop for a fairly long distance is different then playing sports or kids running around being kids.

It's different the soccer, it's different then street hockey, it's different then running to get to your friends house who lives far away. Running is actually a pretty hard on the body for anyone of any age. Especially if you are just running around the neighborhood which probably means running on concrete most of the time. I know 1 - 6 miles daily isn't alarming for anyone here, but he's 9 with developing bones. It's different. Lets face it, most people here are serious runners. Serious enough to be posting on a running forum. What applies to us certainly can't be applied equally to 9 year old kids.

I realize there is nothing more intrusive then when people tell other people how to raise their children. But when it comes to the long term health of a child, we at least have to voice some concerns. If for no other reason then to play devils advocate so you consider both sides of this.

I feel, and I know i'm not alone here, that a 100 day jogging streak for a 9 year old is not only physically not a good idea, but the mental problems associated with it could even be worse.

As I said before, when I was that age there was NOTHING I wouldn't have done to please my dad. That doesn't mean I actually wanted to do those things. That doesn't mean I had a choice.

Think about changing the "jogging" streak to a "cross training" streak. He will be healthier and happier for it. The variety alone will make him happy
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40. Nov 22, 2007 8:53 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by bigapplepie:
Watch kids run. They don't run non-stop.

The other posters who said they ran and biked and mowed the lawn don't get the point. What they did was perfect. The concern is that running long distances without a break (2 miles may be a long distance for a nine year-old) may not be good for them. General exercise, even hard exercise, can be.

If I had kids I'd take my child running 2 or 3 times a week or when they asked me. But every day?

I don't know whether its good or bad for the kid but why take the risk?
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Whaaat? You don't have even a child, what even makes you feel you are qualified to respond to this thread with regards to what you would do with your unborn, unless to congratulate OP and son on their achievement?
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41. Dec 26, 2007 7:52 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
I would worry about the pressure of the streak only. But as far as kids running I don't see any issues as long as it's kept playful.
If I didn't make it fun for my kids they would not want to do it. It all depends on the kid. I know it's true that some kids will bend over backwards to please their parents but it's not true with mine.
They enjoy running with each other so much that sometimes I wonder if they know I'm there with them. They talk the entire time and never really push it because they don't want to. I never push them and at times I tell them that if they don't feel that running is for them they should not feel like they should have to do it. Of course I'm always hoping they stick with it but if pressured they will grow to hate it and that would be the worst thing I could do to them.
We will do right now up to around three miles. I don't see how within the next year it will be damaging for them to go further.
What do you guys think about kids entering their middle school cross country programs and then high school without a background of running?
I'm not looking forward to my children coming home and telling me how they did 400's until they were ready to pass out if they join their team in school. I can't imagine them being able to handle that too well without being able to run a few miles comfortably.
Lydiard used to say that kids can run an enormous amount as long as the effort was aerobic. Although he said that hard interval training is too hard on their developing nervous systems. He felt that kind of running should be avoided. He also warned about the influence of parents and how the kids he worked with would sprint when they saw them. He wished the parents would stay out of sight. He preferred running in field with the kids as opposed to the track. Kids find their own pace and when they are not pressured they will not push to dangerous levels.

BTW - I ran quite a bit when I was young and although I think it was not the best move in the world I ran a Marathon at the age of 15. If it stunted my growth in any way I'm glad because I'm 6'3".


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42. Nov 23, 2007 8:20 PM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
I hope this post becomes very popular in Kenya creating great concern. Meanwhile,12 years later, some 21 year old American who had a 100 day running streak when he was 9 completes the worlds first 1 hour 51 minute marathon breaking the stranglehold the Kenyans had on the sport. Kids are so intrigued by this inspiring display of excellence that a movement grows where they abandon virtual reality sports video lifestyles to get outside and try this retro sport of "running". Experts state that in addition to the massive damage done to their joints, the sweat created by this radical activity may cause kids to reject high fructose corn syrup, which could make them rebel against their parents. Now let me get back to my Bon-Bon eating chatroom, my work here is done.
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44. Nov 28, 2007 9:33 AM in response to: NancySW303
Re: Update on my running streak with my 9-year-old - 100 days in!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by shertz:
I know this because WebMD and my pediatrician(I asked the other day at my sons dr. appt) tell me so. Unfortunately kids are out of shape but it has less to do with exercise and more to do with nutrition. My son is as fit as any and he has no running streaks but eats a healthy diet free of McDonalds. A running streak is a great achievement but a diet free of fast food and junk for 100 days would be healthier and greater! Believe it or not, kids still get plenty of exercise, contrary to Fox News reports who try to steer blame away from big corporations. <HR>


I see, so YOUR pediatrician knows more than the one who actually SEES this kid? And you think everything you read on WebMD is correct, much less makes you an expert? I guarantee you as a professional in the field I know a heck of a lot more about medicine that you've read in your entire lifetime.

Kids today don't exercise 10% of what I did when I was a kid, they're too busy watching TV, playing videogames, and listening to their iPods/cellphones.

The fact that you blame everything on those big bad corporations, and not the parents whose job it is to raise their kids, fully discredits your opinions to me.