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rochrunner

964 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

75. Aug 21, 2006 11:12 AM

in response to: fayelynn

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jeep725:
However, after my 6 mile run yesterday I can't imagine doing 13. But I guess everyone says that.
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That's a common feeling, and it's mostly mental. When I was running marathons, I would finish the Crim 10-miler and it would seem impossible that I could ever run the entire course again and then even another 6 miles on top of that! But once in the actual event, I was mentally prepared for the distance and at the 10-mile mark of the marathon it seemed like I was just getting warmed up.

If it's not in your plans yet, you should consider going up to Flint on Saturday for the Crim -- a lot of other Detroit-bound runners will be there. If you aren't ready for 10 miles, they have a good 8K (5-mile) run as well as some other distances.

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Jeep725

133 posts since
Aug 5, 2005

76. Aug 22, 2006 12:36 PM

in response to: fayelynn

I hadn't considered it, that would be really coool! I'll look up the info online.

Thanks!

lcjn

4 posts since
Jan 13, 2005

77. Aug 25, 2006 10:11 AM

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Hi all,
Just wanted to say GOOD RUNNING for those doing the CRIM this Sat.

Also for many of us, this week marks the end of the first half in training schedules for the Detroit. Kuddos for reaching it.

--Laura

MapleLeaf13

5 posts since
Aug 28, 2006

78. Aug 31, 2006 9:59 AM

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Hello everyone,

I just noticed this thread and have planned to run my first 1/2 marathon in Detroit. Actually it's my very first race.

I have to admit I'm a bit concerned about running in the tunnel - it has to be a bit stinky with all the truck and car fumes.
The bridge hill is quite large too - I happened to be sitting on it for a few hours last week and was wishing I could run the course to see what it feels like.

Have a great day.

tlangley

51 posts since
Nov 16, 2005

79. Dec 26, 2007 10:59 AM

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14 miles for my long run yesterday with a little something still in the gas tank. I'm on track. How is everyone else doing?

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fayelynn

45 posts since
Sep 25, 2004

80. Sep 12, 2006 7:15 AM

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I started this thread so long ago I almost forgot about it...and now I see just how popular it is! It's awesome to see so many people excited about the marathon and half-marathon. But then I guess if you were scared, it wouldn't be a good thing

My training is going well - the Hanson's method is working wonders. I've improved my speed greatly over the last 2 months. I did have to modify the schedule slightly because it's pretty tough - my shin was screaming at me. Anybody else out there following their plan?
The weather here in Michigan has switched to fall pretty much overnight surprisingly. It's nice to run in the cooler weather, but the rain and clouds are not a favorite of mine. I do hope it isn't too cold or raining come marathon day. Last year they anticipated both and it ended up being sunny and cool - perfect!
I'll never forget that feeling last year as I was driving downtown to embark on my first marathon - I was nervous, excited, hyper - you name it. And all for a good reason, it was the sweetest feeling to cross that finish line after months of training! When I saw a falling star while I was driving down there I knew it was going to be an awesome day.
I will agree with the others...crossing over the Ambassador Bridge with the sun coming up was the most spectacular view! And getting out to Belle Isle and looking back at how far you just ran was pretty sweet too. Indian Village was really nice to run through - a lot of nice people out to push you on. The funniest moment in the marathon came about 2-3 miles in when I saw a wall of men peeing on a building and quite a few women squating in the same field. That was hilarious!
To everone out there - enjoy every moment of it! You've put in all the training and effort - it's a day to embrace. And if you're like me, it will humble you as well...

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Marni-

71 posts since
Apr 20, 2005

81. Sep 13, 2006 12:24 AM

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Well, training is still on track for the half. Ain't hurt nothin yet. Done a few races since my last oopsie of a high hamstring pull including Great Lakes Relay, Crim, and Dances With Dirt. Everything's feeling pretty good... just one little nag at the top of my left calf, but it appears to be getting better. This weekend is the Kensigton 15K Challenge, then perhaps a half in Toronto (mostly cause my dh is running the full) or the Motorcity Shakedown 8K on Belle Isle if we don't go to Toronto.

One of these weekends I'll plan a long run on the actual course (minus the bridge and tunnel of course). I could be a nutball and take the tunnel bus over and run in ON, but that's a little excessive and I wouldn't want to copy my dh

. I'm sure our running group will have a "special" Freep training run (last year it was the Thursday before the race) and I ran about 6 miles of the course that night in addition to the 2 long runs I did on the course. I run Detroit all the time, but it's a nice refresher to hit the areas that I don't run at all... like Mexicantown.

Anywhoooo, hope everyone's training is going well.

nittanyboiler

23 posts since
Sep 25, 2002

82. Sep 16, 2006 9:45 AM

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I'll be coming in from the western Pennsylvania for the marathon. I've never run Detroit but everything I've read about it looks really good. This will be the most crowded marathon I have run, which I look forward to in the last miles when I tend to get bored.

My training is going well. I'm roughly following Pfitzinger's program. I did my first 20 miler two weeks ago, but have a hard time getting motivated to do it again. I don't know anybody around here that runs longer distances, so I've been doing almost all my training by myself. I'm usually pretty motivated but contemplating going out for three hours straight is giving me the blahs. I wish the race were sooner.

See you all there.

tlangley

51 posts since
Nov 16, 2005

83. Sep 17, 2006 4:59 PM

in response to: fayelynn

quote:<HR>Originally posted by nittanyboiler:
I'll be coming in from the western Pennsylvania for the marathon. I've never run Detroit but everything I've read about it looks really good. This will be the most crowded marathon I have run, which I look forward to in the last miles when I tend to get bored.

My training is going well. I'm roughly following Pfitzinger's program. I did my first 20 miler two weeks ago, but have a hard time getting motivated to do it again. I don't know anybody around here that runs longer distances, so I've been doing almost all my training by myself. I'm usually pretty motivated but contemplating going out for three hours straight is giving me the blahs. I wish the race were sooner.

See you all there.<HR>

That's outstanding. I have inlaws in western PA, been there many times (city and country). You are going to love the Detroit Marathon. I just finished my first 16 miler today. I must say it is getting harder. I want to do 20 next week.

Is anyone else going to run with the Tortoise and Hare training group next Sunday morning in Ann Arbor?

rochrunner

964 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

84. Sep 18, 2006 12:11 PM

in response to: fayelynn

quote:<HR>Originally posted by MapleLeaf13:
I have to admit I'm a bit concerned about running in the tunnel - it has to be a bit stinky with all the truck and car fumes.
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Actually, that's not a problem. There is no traffic in the tunnel when we're using it, and it really is very well ventilated. It tends to be a bit warm and stuffy through there, but no fumes that I've ever detected.

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Marni-

71 posts since
Apr 20, 2005

85. Sep 20, 2006 7:46 AM

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One of the fellas in our running group that is working with the Freep committee to get volunteers says that we're expecting 16,000 runners this year! Holy cow!

Anybody bringing thier non-running spouse or friend that wants to volunteer? What a way to see the race.... be a course marshall!!

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tlangley

51 posts since
Nov 16, 2005

86. Sep 26, 2006 8:36 PM

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Question? This will be my first marathon. Last week I completed my first 20 mile run a couple weeks earlier then my schedule calls for. Should I run another 20 miler, increase to 22 miles, or drop back down to 16? I am paranoid about getting an injury this close to the race, but for some reason, feel compelled to try and push the distance. Since this thread is on the verge of death, does anyone have some thoughts and/or experience?

nittanyboiler

23 posts since
Sep 25, 2002

87. Sep 28, 2006 12:26 PM

in response to: fayelynn

Hi tlangley.

Congratulations on your first 20 miler. You should feel confident that you can finish the race now. Since Detroit is only four weeks out you shouldn't do anything drastically harder than you have been doing.

I suggest you do one more 20 mile run, no later than October 8. That gives you three weeks to recover. Don't try to run it any faster than the other one you did, but you could pick up the pace a little over the final 3-4 miles if you feel like it.

Also, you should consider doing a little "marathon pace" running. For example, if you hope to break 4 hours, which is 9 minutes per mile, then a good workout would be to warm up for a mile, then run three back-to-back miles at 9:00 pace, jog easier for a couple miles , and then run three more back-to-back miles at 9:00 pace. This should not be too hard for you to complete, but it will get you comfortable with your desired race pace.

tlangley

51 posts since
Nov 16, 2005

88. Sep 29, 2006 1:26 PM

in response to: fayelynn

quote:<HR>Originally posted by nittanyboiler:
Hi tlangley.

Congratulations on your first 20 miler. You should feel confident that you can finish the race now. Since Detroit is only four weeks out you shouldn't do anything drastically harder than you have been doing.

I suggest you do one more 20 mile run, no later than October 8. That gives you three weeks to recover. Don't try to run it any faster than the other one you did, but you could pick up the pace a little over the final 3-4 miles if you feel like it.

Also, you should consider doing a little "marathon pace" running. For example, if you hope to break 4 hours, which is 9 minutes per mile, then a good workout would be to warm up for a mile, then run three back-to-back miles at 9:00 pace, jog easier for a couple miles , and then run three more back-to-back miles at 9:00 pace. This should not be too hard for you to complete, but it will get you comfortable with your desired race pace.<HR>

Thanks for your advise. I'm thinking about doing that 2nd 20 miler this Sunday with some friends in a training run. I want to finish stronger this time around. Depending on how I feel at the end will dictate what I do next week. I like your information on "marathon pace" work. I am shooting for 4:20 or 4:30 ish. Since this is my first marathon, I am going to try and maintain around 10:00. I don't want to crash at the end and have to walk the finishline. It sounds a little crazy, but I want to save a little gas in the tank for the dreaded "Wall". I know strategy and reality gets a little confused during races. Most of the posters on this thread must be busy training since not many people are on here lately.

nittanyboiler

23 posts since
Sep 25, 2002

89. Sep 30, 2006 4:58 PM

in response to: fayelynn

tlangley,

I think you are making a good choice in setting a conservative goal for your first marathon. That way you are more likely to enjoy the experience and have room for improvement later.

Speaking about avoiding the "Wall", make sure you get a lot of complex carbohydrates Friday and Saturday before the race. You can't wait until the night before to carbo load, like you can with a 10k or half marathon. Lots of water both days will help, too.

Another way to avoid the Wall is to get enough water and sports drink throughout the marathon. Your target pace sounds like it will allow you to walk through the drink stations. That way you can get a cup of water and a cup of sports drink at the same aid station. For the first several aid stations you may feel you are going to float away, but if you do this every 2-3 miles you should have a much lower risk of cramps and hitting the wall.

Maybe if we could move this thread over to Race Together it would get more attention!

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