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kneejerk

449 posts since
Apr 16, 2004

585. Mar 19, 2007 3:12 PM

in response to: runningag

Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

Was it a dream or was it the one and only Mr. Lambchop? Wow. It's great to have you back Chops.

Mountmars, my very best thoughts to you and Ms. Mars. I'm very sorry to hear about her health problems. It's good to hear from you.

runningag

434 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

586. Mar 20, 2007 7:25 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

I've just read in a French (from France) thread that during marathon training, your long run is never over 2:15. What a change compared to training programs in the U.S. where 20+ milers are common.

Personnally, my long runs for the 10 weeks before taper are between 13 and 20 miles (and a 22 miler 3 weeks before the marathon).

What about your longs runs and who's right? The French or the Americans?

Mercury1

600 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

587. Mar 20, 2007 8:48 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

Neither. Take it from the Irish, the fewer the better. I never venture over 2 hours @ 7:30-8:00/mile, which is about 30 seconds to a minute slower than race pace (for a 3hr. / 26.2). Better yet, sleep in & skip the long run, or as an alternative, go to the mountain & watch Gro & Roly chugging 'round & 'round & round & round.............

Silly Sally087

1,244 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

588. Mar 20, 2007 9:48 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

quote:<HR>Originally posted by runningag:
What about your longs runs and who's right? <HR>

I try to avoid training altogether. We all get the same finishing medal, and even with training, I'll never get age group like superhuman Mercury.

Mars: M-A-R-S!! Good to hear from you, but I was hoping it would be under better circumstances ... positive healing vibes to Mrs. MM ... hugs and kisses too, well no kisses, since I'm still out with a cold ...

Sally

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rolyone

1,081 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

589. Mar 21, 2007 8:22 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mercury1:
Neither. Take it from the Irish, the fewer the better. I never venture over 2 hours @ 7:30-8:00/mile, which is about 30 seconds to a minute slower than race pace (for a 3hr. / 26.2). Better yet, sleep in & skip the long run, or as an alternative, go to the mountain & watch Gro & Roly chugging 'round & 'round & round & round.............<HR>

That is up, down and aound the mountain X 5

So that my problem Merc for not running a 3 hour Marathon, I'm running to much???

runningag

434 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

590. Mar 21, 2007 9:26 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

Merc: you just add more confusion in my confused mind.

Mercury1

600 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

591. Mar 21, 2007 9:58 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

That's us......Cool - cofused - Runners!

Mr Lambchops

562 posts since
Dec 13, 2004

592. Mar 21, 2007 10:20 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

quote:<HR>Originally posted by runningag:
I've just read in a French (from France) thread that during marathon training, your long run is never over 2:15. What a change compared to training programs in the U.S. where 20+ milers are common.
<HR>

From my fat bottom, let me try an answer:

2:15 but at what pace ? The big difference between US & Europe programs seems to be LSD pacing. From 5k to Ultra, median times are ending up much faster in french races. More club runners, less just-want-to-finish folks, no charity people the bulk of US programs are aiming at. Merc's LSD pace is not your whistle-in-the-park.
Remember the 5000 quebec athlete (don't remember her name.. she killed herself in a car accident last year) ? She was preparing for NY & was barely over 20k with a couple of months left. Fast folks are doing shorter faster LSD.

Leave alone now.

Df7

926 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

593. Mar 21, 2007 10:40 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

Mercury, I thought you had a lot to do today ? Get back to work and stop confusing the masses?

Chops ? have you found your running cloths yet ?

Sally ? you?re alive ?

Ralf ? wie gehts ? was gibts neues ?

Truxx, JB - surviving ?

Anyone besides Mercury from this forum going to Lasalle this weekend ?

grommit070

882 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

594. Dec 26, 2007 11:50 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

.... it's all relative ya'know..... like merc... I have no intention of running more than about 33% of my target race time as a training run, what for?....... as for pace: mine will vary between 3 & 12 mph.... depending if I'm goin' up or comin' down....and as for the range of target time....give or take 25% is OK, .....so many variables, best not to worry! .... as for the medals..... only the fast folk get one! the rest get a pbj sandwich & a tee shirt... which is OK too!

chops i.o.u. a "whiteface".......

g&g

wilhughson

15 posts since
Feb 13, 2006

595. Mar 21, 2007 12:15 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

will be running in the 2k - 5k in Lasalle this sunday
wilhughson

Mr Lambchops

562 posts since
Dec 13, 2004

596. Mar 21, 2007 1:33 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Df7:
Chops ? have you found your running cloths yet ?
<HR>

Don't provock, lady... Don't provock

Df7

926 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

597. Mar 21, 2007 2:50 PM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

First, mon chou, its provoke....

now go find your friggin? shoes and haul your tall carcass out the door this evening?its lovely out there?you may get the same beautiful night sky as last night? shame you don?t live close by, I?m slow and you haven?t been running, so for a change, I wouldn?t be looking at the back of your head

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Omni ? will you be in Lasalle with Mme O and little O ?

Genou - ?? Lasalle ?

I?ll possibly be dans l?assistance so I can hold on to things if its needed.

kneejerk

449 posts since
Apr 16, 2004

598. Mar 22, 2007 5:21 AM

in response to: runningag

Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Df7:

Genou - ?? Lasalle ?
I?ll possibly be dans l?assistance so I can hold on to things if its needed. <HR>

Hello sweety,
Not sure yet... Lasalle is sure a great race... thinking about it...

Sally, I hope you're feeling better and have a good weekend in Boston

easygo

57 posts since
Jan 28, 2007

599. Mar 22, 2007 7:17 AM

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Re: Montreal "cooler in winter" Runners

HI !
mr.Lampchops you were referring to Emily Mondor she was from Mascouche. She believed that human were effecient bipede.

Training time: Having run in a couple of race in France, there is more runners and those who run... man there going for it. Same thing in New Zealand. So I guess (?) that training time are faster, more intense, requiring shorter long run.

It's a bit early but... sunday morning should be a beautiful one.

See ya, Easygo

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