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7 Replies Last post: Dec 18, 2007 6:07 PM by leendert  
Click to view Lee4545's profile Amateur 25 posts since
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Dec 18, 2007 2:01 AM

Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.


If I see one more canned response from Coolrunning admins I am going to puke. The idea that the old coolrunning was having problems with server load and lost data is such bs. In 4 years tiome I rarely had any issues with coolrunning.com. Active.com bought the users form Coolrunning to monetize the users stop w/ th bs rationalizing.

Fine you want to make money off of us then allow those of us who want to continue to use the extremely simple and powerful log that was the old collrunning log pay for it.

You can run the old cool running log on a separate server/s and I and others would happily pay $10 a month for this-at least I would.

You guys dont seem to understand . You have made a huge management blunder. What had the most value to the users was the software-the coolrunning log-nothing else. We dont want all this other unnecessary stuff. Your site is way too big

You should offer the old coolrunning log as a paid service if you must.

If you dont want to run it side-by side and you want to discard it...please sell it to someone who will keep it viable.

Active.com needs to know that you will not monetize coolrunning users unless you allow us to use the former log-which was easily the best exerice log online not just for running but any type of crosstraining. Dang it I dont even run consistently but I do swim, surf, do PT , lift ,do CrossFit workouts all stuff that coolrunning.com was perfect for logging.

Manament at Active thought they were buying the users- NO ..the value in coolrunning is the software. You may monetize 25% of old users -I doubt even that if you dont allow users to have access to the coolrunning..log. In other words you just lost 75% of your investment. You should have recognized initially that the reason coolrunning was so popular was because it offered great software. The value was in the log/software not us the users. If you ketep the log available you will have a better chance of not alienating us and possibly monetizing more of the user base. Instead you have alienated and preally ****** us off.

Please do not destroy the coolrunning log at least run it side by side w/ your more ambitious log. Or at least offer to sell it to someone who will put it back online.

This is a perfect example of a botched buy-out . Listen to your new customers please andmaybe you can monetize the userbase... Dont and watch your investment's value go down the drain.


Click to view rokudon's profile Pro 63 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Dec 18, 2007 5:49 AM in response to: Lee4545
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.

Right on - many have pointed out that trying to substitute Active Trainer for the Coolrunning Log is insane - and will turn away the majority of users - many have already fled.

Who decided it was a bright idea to put the navigation bar from Coolrunning in this site and drop it's log at the same time? Active should turn those people out. They just blew the company quite a bit of money. Your Web 2.0 website will be worth nothing when people flee.....

Like many others I am now scouting other sites to find a place to log my runs....

Click to view ai698's profile Amateur 21 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. Dec 18, 2007 8:26 AM in response to: Lee4545
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.
I think I can answer your question and save them the time to fix everything-

Let us sincerely
apologize for the problems you are currently experiencing with the
transition from Cool Running to the Active system.

Our team has worked extremely hard to try and minimize these issues.
However, any transition is going to cause some discomfort. Moving from
the familiar to something new is a difficult situation. You may be
asking why this transition occurred in the first place. The simple
reason is that it was necessary simply to maintain the day to day
operations of CoolRunning.com. The old CoolRunning.com system could no
longer handle the load of the community. Furthermore, there were data
security and maintenance issues that were creating an increasing strain
on the system. Over the last six months, there were numerous issues of
users losing data on the CoolRunning.com system, a trend that was
accelerating into the New Year. By moving the message boards and
running log to Active.com, you benefit from Active's more robust
infrastructure, meaning no more lost data.

Again, we apologize for any problems you may be experiencing in the
transition. We value your feedback and it is our goal to work with you
to ensure your concerns are addressed and promptly resolved.

We have made all attempts to make the Cool Running data log migration
process as simple and complete as possible. If you would like to
transfer your data, please follow these steps:

1) Go to www.ActiveTrainer.com and log in with your Active Network's user account and password.
2) The system will direct you to a Merge account page and tell you that
your account was upgraded by CoolRunning.com. Click the button, "Create
an Account".
3) The system will direct you to the Import data page, where you can
opt to transfer your Cool Running data to Active Trainer. Click on the
"Transfer my Data" button to begin the Cool Running data transfer. If
you choose not to import your data at this time, you can always go to
the My Account Settings page and transfer your data later.
4) If you opted to transfer your data, depending on how much data
you've logged in Cool Running, the process can take anywhere from 4 to
24 hours to complete. In the meantime, you can begin using the Active
Trainer features and tools.
5) Once the transfer of data is complete, you will find your Cool Running data in the calendar and Shoe Tracker.

We understand there may be a bit of confusion about the data transfer
from the Cool Running logs to Active Trainer. Even though the data is
largely the same, it will look different in the two systems.

Workout type, distance, duration and pace will transfer directly over.

Any comments, Avg HR and Max HR will be inserted into the workout notes for those specific workouts.

You weight data will be imported into the Daily Vitals section in Active Trainer.

Shoe data will automatically populate into the Shoe Tracker, including all mileage information logged to date.

You can view historical data in a number of formats on Active Trainer.

Your calendar allows you to see workouts (with varying levels of detail) in a month, week and day view.

Click on "Reports" in the top navigation to access your Training Log,
showing side-by-side planned vs. actual data in a weekly view

Dig deeper by clicking on the Training Stats tab, which allows you to graph aggregated stats such as training volume.


Let me know if this doesn't work for you and we will work through it
together. Your data is available it just needs to be uploaded. Thanks.
Sara


-There, that save them time from cutting and pasting.

Click to view PrinceJ's profile Expert 55 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
4. Dec 18, 2007 5:45 PM in response to: ai698
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.

Is a real person writing this? Please indicate your humanity by deviating from the script ok. Yes we know you tried hard.

We know you tried hard. We read it in the 2000 other posts by Active Sarah. Is Active at all interested in what it's users want?

Click to view PrinceJ's profile Expert 55 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Dec 18, 2007 5:46 PM in response to: Lee4545
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.
For what it's worth I'd pay the $10.
Click to view ai698's profile Amateur 21 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Dec 18, 2007 6:02 PM in response to: PrinceJ
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.
No, I'm real. The copy/ paste was fake. I was just saving them the key strokes and being a smartass at the same time.
Click to view leendert's profile Amateur 10 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
7. Dec 18, 2007 6:07 PM in response to: ai698
Re: Run the Coolrunning Log Functionalty Side-by-side as a Paid Service.
There are other running log service with functionality identical to Cool Running. I'm transferring over to http://www.runningahead.com/
The guy who runs the site can import all your Cool Running log data (without loss) and also allows you to take your log elsewhere.