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Click to view carina079's profile Amateur 39 posts since
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15. Jan 17, 2007 9:19 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
Irishgator, what did the compartment test show? Compartment syndrome isn't so rare. It is rare compared to shin splints, but it is actually underdiagnosed. Interesting, I can't do any forearm exercises either. I used to do reverse grip bicep curls, and it made my forearms feel like they were going to explode.

Are you able to run at all? I definitely feel your pain. It took a long time for me to figure out what was wrong with me (fortunately, I had access to a medical library), because everyone told me that I had shin splints. It is very very frustrating. Anyway, once I self diagnosed, I found a doc who had a lot of experience with compartment syndrome. Still, not much is known about it.

For what it's worth, I've been symptom free for two years, and I have been able to run marathons again. I gave up dairy in all forms (for health reasons), and since then, I have been pain free. (No milk protein, e.g., caesin or whey.) The docs think it is coincidental, which is hard for me to believe, considering I had symptoms for 20 years and four unsuccessful surgeries. Again, this is what worked for me; I am not suggesting that it can cure compartment syndrome, but it may be worth a try.
Click to view me1ani's profile Amateur 13 posts since
Jan 2, 2006
17. Jan 25, 2007 2:03 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
In December I started ART (Active Release Therapy) with a sports chiro for plantar faciitis- hes also been working on my shins. Its been quite helpful.

I also recently have been using a TP massage baller kit that is similar in theory to the stick, but much more effective, IMO.


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Click to view me1ani's profile Amateur 13 posts since
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18. Jan 25, 2007 2:13 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
Heres the link to the massage tool if anyones interested:

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Click to view runnerparris's profile Legend 365 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
19. Jan 27, 2007 6:13 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
quote:<HR>Originally posted by me1ani:
In December I started ART (Active Release Therapy) with a sports chiro for plantar faciitis- hes also been working on my shins. Its been quite helpful.

I also recently have been using a TP massage baller kit that is similar in theory to the stick, but much more effective, IMO.


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Not positive yet...but I too seem to have had success with the ART.

A few months ago my shins started tightening at the start of my runs...felt like they were rubberbands twisted as tight as they could go...almost like they were going to explode. At first, I could just slow down and relax and it would go away, then got progressively worse. Last weekend I did a half-marathon and it was the worst yet...I had to stop and rest my legs 3 times in the first 4 miles and run really slow...Somewhere between 4-5 miles they loosened up and were perfectly fine for the remainder of the race.

I haven't gone to the Dr. or gotten a compression test. But I did go to a chiro that does the ART. He also rubs really hard on the grizzly spots to work out any adhesions. I ran 13 miles this morning with only minor discomfort on 1 side instead of both for the first few miles...no problem after that.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't a temporary fix...I'm terrifed about the whole surgery thing if it is indeed compartment syndrome.


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Click to view DavidGreen2's profile Amateur 12 posts since
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20. Jan 27, 2007 9:38 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
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21. Jan 28, 2007 3:27 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
The ART is terrific. I was lucky to have a podiatrist here in NYC that is a triathlete, who recommended a chiro who is an longtime ART instructor. He is amazing (Dr. Rob DeStefano).

I've been going 2x a week for a month and once a week for two weeks.

Its made a lasting difference- no more chronic discomfort. No return of my compartment syndrome and my plantar faciitis is resolving! Its also helping with my hip flexor tendinitis (which may be a tear in my labrum-yikes!). Thats a whole other matter!


Dave-

Try the TP massage footballer on your soleus also.


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22. Jan 28, 2007 8:22 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
Will the TP roller help my shinsplints?

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Dec 14, 2007
23. Jan 28, 2007 10:45 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
quote:<HR>Originally posted by me1ani:

The ART is terrific. I was lucky to have a podiatrist here in NYC that is a triathlete, who recommended a chiro who is an longtime ART instructor. He is amazing (Dr. Rob DeStefano).


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Glad to hear you have had non-surgical relief..Everytime I hear somebody say surgery is the only cure it makes me cringe.

Just the one session made a huge difference for me...I'm not one of these placebo people who believes in voodoo, but hes very close to making a believer out of me. I have a deep tissue message scheduled with somebody this week and i intend to go back and get the ART done at least one more time. It's not 100% gone, but the difference is unbelievable.

It's expensive because my insurance doesn't cover it, so I am limited as to how often I can go, but he also helped with my IT band..

Dave- I use the foam roller for calves, shines quads, hams, just about everything...when I'm feeling good I sometimes forget and then I end up in trouble again.

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Click to view CrazyEye's profile Amateur 37 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
24. Jan 30, 2007 4:27 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
I didn't have time to read all of the replies, but here's my story...

My symptoms began with severe pain in my anterior tibialis after running only 10 minutes. The pain would go away within about 15 minutes of stopping. It was excrutiating to walk during that recovery time. I went to a sports medicine doctor who prescribed 8 weeks of PT. I would recommend this for you too, to see if any weak muscles are causing your calf to work harder than it should. PT didn't help me, so I was sent to an orthopedic surgeon who ruled out anything besides ECD. He prescribed custom orthotics. INSTANTLY, these worked - from my first run in them up until now, over 3 years later.

I hope your solution is as easy as mine was. Good Luck.
Click to view me1ani's profile Amateur 13 posts since
Jan 2, 2006
25. Jan 30, 2007 8:34 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
Dave,

Sorry I've been away and didn't see your comment about your shin splints.

Yes! The TP massage quadballer will work on your shin splints. The website should have more info. I would first recommend icing, some gentle massage and short runs on softer more consistent surfaces- building up to asphalt and concrete slowly (stopping before it hurts). Your body need to accomodate to the pounding, don't overload it. Make sure your midsoles aren't too broken down.

ART works great on shin splints if you can find a good chiro in your area.

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Click to view me1ani's profile Amateur 13 posts since
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26. Jan 30, 2007 8:50 PM in response to: Alpha Crow
Runnerparris,

I agree. Poking around inside is not always the best idea. I know in some cases surgery is unavoidable.

I recently heard from one of my practioners that a study was conducted in which random people were MRI-ed for evidence of ligament tears, past injuries etc. They were asked if they knew about their injuries, if they had ever felt pain in any areas, and/or if they were debilitated at all by the tears.

According to the storyteller, 68% of the random participants had tears of the hip Labrum (the hip "gasket") of varying degrees of severity, and some had tears in knee ligaments- some had both. Close to all of the 68% claimed to have never been affected by the injuries- most never even knew they had them!

I would love to know how many of the study participants were runners!


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Click to view Susmita's profile Amateur 9 posts since
Jan 23, 2007
27. Jan 31, 2007 9:55 AM in response to: Alpha Crow
Basic question -- if you have compartment syndrome, does it hurt EVERY time you run? So if I have on and off shin pain, it's not likely to be compartment syndrome? Thanks!
Click to view me1ani's profile Amateur 13 posts since
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28. Feb 1, 2007 8:29 AM in response to: Alpha Crow
When my ECS was acute, it did bother me on every run. On some days it felt like it got worse as the run progressed.

I would keep a log to see if theres any pattern to your pain, then you figure out how to deal with whats causing it.
Click to view CSuzette's profile Legend 290 posts since
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29. Feb 1, 2007 11:41 AM in response to: Alpha Crow
I don't know if this would help, but I wear compression knee socks to prevent blisters and it seems to me if swelling is your problem that this could help you.

I take it you are a man? Foot Smart catalog has compression hose/socks for men. They come in various colors. Make sure to get "firm". I have been buying the graduated compression kind, but they also sell one described as "medical".