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Click to view nuzette's profile Amateur 22 posts since
Sep 11, 2006

Feb 21, 2007 9:33 AM

headaches after run

Hoping someone can help me out. I always get a headache after a run, it usually kicks in a couple of hours later. I thought maybe it was a dehydration issue but I drink plenty while I run and before and after. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Anne


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Click to view emmroz's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Jun 23, 2006
2. Feb 21, 2007 12:11 PM in response to: nuzette
How much water are you drinking and how long are you running? Sounds like dehydration to me. I used to get headaches a few hours after working out and thought I was drinking plenty of water but it turns out I need to drink a lot more water than I thought to stay hydrated.
Click to view west rock boy's profile Expert 57 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. Feb 21, 2007 2:55 PM in response to: nuzette
do you eat / refuel in addition to rehydrating? the rehydration is certainly important, your body may be wanting some quick carbs & proteins as well. good luck. happy running.
Click to view maryt091's profile Legend 806 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Feb 22, 2007 6:05 AM in response to: nuzette
Do you sweat a lot? You could be losing electrolytes and needing salt if you just replace the water. That can cause a headache. If you drink water afterwards as well that could contribute to an electrolyte imbalance and make it worse.

Weigh yourself before and after a run. It's normal to weigh a little less afterwards - couple of pounds or so won't be a problem. If you weight more, you are drinking too much.
Click to view danielle035's profile Pro 76 posts since
Jan 31, 2007
6. Feb 22, 2007 7:18 AM in response to: nuzette
Have you noticed the time of day if that has any impact? Are you eating enough on a daily basis?
Click to view emmroz's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Jun 23, 2006
7. Feb 22, 2007 9:52 AM in response to: nuzette
You need to make sure you're well hydrated when you start your run. This includes drinking water throughout the day, not just drinking a glass of water before you put your shoes on.
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Jun 4, 2006
8. Feb 22, 2007 10:21 AM in response to: nuzette
I think that you are a victim of ?benign exercise-related headaches.? They don?t seem to have much if anything to do with dehydration. You can get them as a result of almost any kind of exercise and they can even happen during sex. I don?t get them when I run, but I do sometimes when I weight train. It may happen while you are exercising, but also can slowly build after you have finished your exercise. Most neurologists think that it is due to activity in the trigeminal, or fifth cranial, nerve. This nerve does several things. It is the motor nerve that allows you to chew and it also allows you to feel touch and pain in your head and face. This includes pain from changes in the blood vessels that supply the muscles of the head and neck, the covering of the brain and the brain itself. It is thought that exercise may put traction on these vessels and trigger the pain. For example, if your neck muscles become tense or even if your blood pressure increases after exercise this may cause the vessels to change size and stimulate the trigeminal pain system.

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10. Feb 23, 2007 1:25 PM in response to: nuzette
I have the exactly same problem and everytime I ask a doctor the answer is the same - drink more! But I do drink a lot after and before my runs and I don't think it is the problem. Now I do take exadrin soon after i finish running and it seems to help. I don't know about taking it before the run - I know you should not take Aspirin, for instance before you run. If you ever find a cause for it, please let me know
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Sep 14, 2006
11. Feb 24, 2007 7:10 PM in response to: nuzette
I sometimes get migraine soon after training. Almost certainly a blood sugar thing - key to preventing it is eating something sugary e.g. a banana very quickly after training - almost before you've got your breath back etc.
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Feb 24, 2007
12. Feb 24, 2007 10:09 PM in response to: nuzette
I wish y'all would figure this out. I have had this identical problem for years. Any advice would be appreciated. My typical run is about 5 miles, but sometimes longer or shorter. If I run after work in the evening, I am fine. However, if I run in the morning, then I usually have a serious headache later in the day. I sought advice on the problem and was told to drink more water. That did not help. I ran a marathon a couple of years ago, and had blood drawn in the medical tent afterwards while suffering these symptoms. I was told that I had hyponatremia (low blood sodium). An IV cleared my headache right up. Since then, I have tried drinking a V-8 after runs or other ways of adding sodium after runs. I have also eaten my share of bananas to add potassium. The results have been mixed, and I still struggle with the problem. I feel sure that it has to do with hydration/electrolytes, but I am not sure exactly what. I just know that if I run in the evening, there is almost never a headache. If I run in the morning, I generally have a pretty serious headache in the afternoon. It is a very frustrating problem to have. There is a lot a great running to be had in the morning. Any advice or similar experiences would be appreciated.
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Jun 4, 2006
13. Feb 25, 2007 10:07 AM in response to: nuzette
I was thinking some more about this Saturday and did some research on the web and at our medical school library. In my previous post I lumped all exercise-related headaches together, but there are at least two categories and the one that is the topic here seems to be the EFFORT HEADACHE. A very good article on this can be found at

http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/02feb/mccrory.htm[/URL" target="_blank">

Exertional headaches occur with the exercise and are caused by sudden strenuous effort such as happens in weightlifting or wrestling. They are likely a combination of muscle tension and increased pressure in the cranial arteries which causes them to stretch and triggers the trigeminal pain system.

According to Paul McCrory who wrote the article referenced above effort headaches are the most common type of headache in athletes and have been frequently reported in runners. They occur after the run and in susceptible individuals can happen even after easy runs. They typically last 4 to 6 hours and are characterized by mild to severe throbbing pain. They are thought to be vascular in origin and are more likely to happen in people who are disposed to migraines. They tend to occur more often in hot weather so state of hydration may be related. Therefore, it is important to drink before and during the run.

However, they also occur in well-hydrated runners and after runs in cold weather that are short enough (say less than 3 miles) that would not cause significant dehydration in most runners. The vascular origin (once again triggering the trigeminal pain system) seems to be agreed upon, but there doesn?t seem to be agreement as to trigger for the response. Some research indicates that muscle tension initiates the problem and exercises that strengthen the neck and trapezius muscles may help in that if these muscles are stronger they will be less likely to become extremely tense during a run.

However, regardless of the cause the recommended treatment is generally a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID) with indomethacin being the one most likely to be prescribed if you go to a physician who understands the syndrome. Indomethacin (or its generic equivalents) is a potent NSAID that is mostly used for relief from migraines. If you read up on it, the side-effects will probably cause concern (in fact may scare the **** out of you). However, it is ?safe taken as prescribed.? As with other NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen, it can cause GI bleeding, block the blood thinning effects of aspirin and reduce the effectiveness of certain anti-hypertensive agents.

I don?t get effort headaches, but do get exertional headaches and find that 400 mg of gel- encapsulated ibuprofen in combination with relaxation is the best treatment. I will say that the first time I got an exert ional headache I thought I was having a cerebral hemorrhage. That?s what prompted me to read up on this stuff.

Hope this helps.


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Click to view CSuzette's profile Legend 290 posts since
Apr 8, 2005
14. Feb 27, 2007 11:55 AM in response to: nuzette
I suffer from exercise induced migraines and have pretty much been able to eliminate them from my runs. My running mentor actually figured out that it is an energy problem...probalby related mostly to going even slightly anaerobic during a run. A study found that vigorous exercise for 30 seconds was able to induce a migraine in susceptibe people within 4-8 hours (during recovery).

My protocol:

1. I drink salted water - 1/2 teaspoon to 1 qt. This has varied over time, but it my most recent plan.

2. Before I leave the house I drink a protein drink in salted water - 2 heaping teaspoons L-Glutamine, 1 heaping tsp. BCAAs, 1/4 tsp. Taurine.

2. To take on run, for every 8 oz. of water I add a heaping teaspoon of L-Glutamine. I drink 4 oz. every 15 minutes or so. L-GLute doesn''t dissolve in water that well, so you have to shake it up.

3. When I return I drink another 2-3 heaping tsp. of L-Glutamine.

4. If I start getting a headache feeling I take additional L-Glutmine as needed.

5. I run all runs aerobically. Use a HR monitor if necessary. Do not over-exert and do not "breath hard". Going up hills is harder effort and even if you feel like you are not going anaerobic you might be. Running long is also more effort and you might have to run slower to do it.

Consider a migraine like any other running injury. You don't run injured and running with a migraine is no fun. They are a neurologic problem...and people with migraines are more susceptible to strokes. (Be sure to eat lots of salmong and take your fish oil!)

Best of luck!