But the point of this thread is that the Baptist Church did something wrong. In whose eyes? Yours? Mine?

This should only be an issue between the Church involved and the Muslims unless some legal code/law is broken. And in this case there appears to be none.

It makes for good bantering of Christians, Baptists or other religious in general. But absent a legal violation I'm not sure why this should be such a hot thread.

If you think what the Church did was wrong, don't go to their functions.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by 770:
Sometimes I get guardedly optimistic your bigotry and intolerance will moderate. But then you prove me wrong again.

And for the record, NO I DID NOT DOUBLE CLICK.<HR>

You notice how whenever really stupid bigoted stuff happens, it's always seems to happen in the South? That's not a coincidence.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by voq:
Yes, I do believe the point of this thread was to discuss whether the Baptist Church did something morally wrong..<HR>

And once again, if it's not legally wrong, it is morally wrong in whose eyes? You still haven't shown me how what they did was wrong. And it's not that I don't necessarily share the same opinion as you as to whether it was right or wrong. I just don't see the point as long as they have not broken any legal laws. The Church, law firm, restaurant, social organization, or whatever is entitled to be selective in how they wish to handle things.

What's moral to one person, isn't necessarily moral to another.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by 770:
And once again, if it's not legally wrong, it is morally wrong in whose eyes? You still haven't shown me how what they did was wrong. And it's not that I don't necessarily share the same opinion as you as to whether it was right or wrong. I just don't see the point as long as they have not broken any legal laws. The Church, law firm, restaurant, social organization, or whatever is entitled to be selective in how they wish to handle things.

What's moral to one person, isn't necessarily moral to another.

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My point is not about the subject matter, rather that your argument that a topic is only worthy of discussion if there is a violation of the law is ridiculous.

The point of the thread was obviously to discuss whether the church was morally wrong. But you jump in stating that they didn't break any laws. Who cares? That's not the point of the discussion.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by makeda:
Are you saying that unless something is illegal we shouldn't have strong opinions about it?<HR>

Certainly not.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by 770:
Perhaps if you removed the logs from your eyes you would have a better view of heaven and earth.<HR>

Are you claiming southern culture isn't pro-homophobia?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by 770:
Look at your own church history about homophobia, both past and present. Then condemn others.

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You know, regardless of the Church's stance on homosexuality, it still doesn't answer my question.

Is Southern Culture pro-homophobia?

Simple question.

Gentlemen (and ladies), please!

The OP suggests Hyde Park Baptist's rescinding the reservation of the Interfaith Group to hold their Thanksgiving Service at the Quarries was an un-Christian act. Right? (Or am I reading something into this that isn't there?)

Most responders seem to be saying, yes it was unchristian because they see it as uncharitable or, at least, bad manners.

So far no one--except , to some extent, 770 and Mrinertia--have suggested that's not entirely correct. But no one has offered any convincing arguments one way or the other as to whether--or, especially, WHY--this action is unbecoming of a Christian organization.

So, I'll step up to the plate.

Aside from revealing an appalling lack of administrative oversight, Hyde Park Baptist Church's actions in this matter are entirely consistent with New Testament guidelines on how Christians are to interact with non-Christian religions.

I Corinthians 10:20-21 clearly states that heathen religious observances are tantamount to devil-worship, and Christians should not participate in that. Even if it offends George W. Bush.

Generally speaking (and you, dear reader, may indeed be an exception), those who are most adamant about why Christians should cooperate with other religions are those who either have no particular belief in God at all or else think "all religions are paths to the same destination."

Got news for you: All religions do not lead to God, no more than all airlines fly to Corpus Christi.


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