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Click to view frontstroke90's profile Amateur 30 posts since
Mar 23, 2006

Mar 24, 2007 12:50 PM

ITBS??? Or something worse?? please help!!

About 3 days ago, I got done doing a workout on the track (just 3 1000's, nothing particularly difficult) and was getting to do the 4 200's my coach had told me to do, but i noticed that the outside of my right knee had gotten stiff, but i ran anyway and the pain went away so i forgot about it. That night, when i was bending my knee to get in bed, my knee popped really loudly and it was really painful. however, it was fine when i got up the next morning. The next day, thursday, is my day off, and i didn't run at all. then, on friday, I went on just about a 4-mile run, and my knee was fine the whole time i was running. however, when we got done, we stopped at the track to do 6 200's. about a minute after i stopped, my right knee started getting tremendously painful to even walk on. it basically felt like everything inside of it had just gone to bone it was so stiff, and i couldn't bend it w/o pretty much crying out in pain. in about 10 minutes i could kind of bend it and there was a really funny pop that hadn't been there b/f, that was to the left of my it band. the outside of my knee was a little bit swollen too. i skipped the 200's and did some stretches and put ice on it. when i was done icing, which was probably about 40 minutes after finishing running, my knee was mostly fine, and today it doeesn't even feel hurt.....

my coach seems to think it's something w/ my it band, but a lot of my symptoms don't seem to match up. i haven't had any pain during running, and the pain after running doesn't go away quickly at all. also, the pop makes me think it's something else. i did switch shoes about a week ago, but they're the exact same brand, style, and model number as my last pair, and i've never had any problem w/ these shoes. i'm really worried to even run now b/c i'm afraid the pain will be unbearable, esp. after a long run, which i'm supposed to do tomorrow. if anyone has any advice, please tell me!!! i really don't want to loose this track season.

any advice would be really appreciated!!!
thanks
Click to view marunr's profile Pro 162 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
1. Mar 24, 2007 4:19 PM in response to: frontstroke90
I would say if you've got something popping in there you should probably go see your doctor. Usually an ITB injury will hurt while you're running, but it's hard to say. Good luck to you!
Click to view frogdog1028's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Apr 29, 2006
2. Mar 24, 2007 5:28 PM in response to: frontstroke90
I've been dealing with ITBS problems for about two months now. Like you, I generally have problems after I run. The first time I had pain it was several hours after a four-mile run. The next long run (5 miles) it was immediately after I stopped running. The pain usually lasts for about a day but only when I bend it (walking stiff-legged produces little pain). I get a false sense of hope that I'm better but then it comes back after long runs and is unbearable.
So...you don't necessarily have to have pain during running to have ITBS. A doctor can diagnose ITBS pretty easily. An easy test is if you bend your knee 30 degrees and put pressure on the outside of your knee and it hurts like heck, it's ITBS.
Tip: Buy a foam roller (Target sells them) to massage the painful area.
Click to view Tamalina's profile Legend 1,594 posts since
Aug 14, 2007
4. Mar 26, 2007 11:20 AM in response to: frontstroke90
I've dealt with ITBS quite extensively and have never had a "popping" sensation. Not saying that's not what could be going on with you, just that that was not one of my signs. When my ITBS(around the knee, not around the hip) would flare up, it was the bending motion that really hurt. walking down the stairs was painful, infact, I just couldn't do it. I'd have to walk down sideways so as not to bend my knee back. it was painful while running (usually after a mile or so) because in running you are bending your knee. walking on flat surfaces never bothered it. The IT pain is caused by a too tight IT band that rubs across an inflamed bursa.
Click to view polar 410's profile Rookie 5 posts since
May 20, 2004
5. Mar 26, 2007 4:49 PM in response to: frontstroke90
Here's a possibilty:
See the last paragraph.

Meniscal injury of the knee


Bruce C Anderson, MD


UpToDate performs a continuous review of over 375 journals and other resources. Updates are added as important new information is published. The literature review for version 15.1 is current through December 2006; this topic was last changed on May 12, 2005. The next version of UpToDate (15.2) will be released in June 2007.

INTRODUCTION ? A torn meniscus is a disruption of the fibrocartilage pads located between the femoral condyles and the tibial plateaus (show figure 1) [1]. The medial and lateral meniscus provide shock absorption and play a role in joint lubrication.

Tears are classified as partial or complex; anterior, lateral, or posterior; traumatic or degenerative; and horizontal, vertical, radial, parrot-beak, or bucket handle. Significant tears lead to loss of smooth motion of the knee (locking), knee effusion, and premature osteoarthritis. Meniscal tears may occur in isolation or in association with a medial collateral ligament (MCL) or anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tear [2].

PRESENTATION ? The most common cause of meniscal injury is a twisting injury with the foot fixed; this frequently occurs in football and basketball. Older individuals may have degenerative tear with a history of minimal or no trauma.

The degree of pain at the time of injury is variable; most patients can ambulate after a small tear occurs and may continue to participate in the activity that caused the injury. The acute event is then followed by an insidious onset of pain and swelling over 24 hours. The pain is exacerbated by twisting or pivoting movements. Severe tears are usually associated with more significant pain and early restriction of knee motion. Some patients describe a tearing or popping sensation at the time of injury.

Patients with untreated meniscal tears can present weeks after the injury complaining of popping, locking, catching, and the knee "giving out," or may simply report a vague sense that the knee is not moving properly. This feeling of instability is related to the proprioceptive misinformation that occurs when a fragment (eg, meniscal tear) floats between the two articular surfaces, creating the sensation that the knee is not in the position in which it was anticipated to be. "Locking" is not true locking in the sense of not being able to move at all, but rather reflects the inability to fully extend the knee because of interference from the torn meniscus.