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Click to view Rhinosout's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Feb 16, 2005

Apr 9, 2007 4:52 AM

Odd knee pain

I'm just getting into running again, having run all last summer (up to about 3.5 miles) and then hurting my back and having to stop running in the early autumn. I'm currently running about 1.5 miles over 20+ minutes, interspersed with walking, three times a week. I'm running partly on the road and partly on grass. I have good shoes, I'm 24 without previous injury and I'm not overweight.

Since I've started running I'm getting an odd pain in my left knee (this happened last time as well). It never hurts while I'm running, nor walking generally, only when I make specific movements like climbing steep stairs or a steep hill. The pain is not severe, but it is sharp. It feels like something is moving over my kneecap, a muscle or something (afraid I'm not too good with anatomy). After I stopped running last summer the pain continued for a few weeks and then went away. It has now returned, and so even though it doesn't affect my running I know the two are connected. It sort of feels like my left knee is somewhat weaker than my right one.

What can I do about this? As my running continues, I'm afraid that it may somehow go on weakening my knee. I'm also afraid of doing strength training on the knee, for fear of aggravating it further. Doing squats or that kind of movement is exactly the kind of thing that makes the pain flare up. I've read about typical knee injuries and it doesn't seem to match up with any of those.

Should I ignore it and continue gently? I am reluctant (though willing if necessary) to go and see a doctor about this because they have been unhelpful in the past, and if I were referred to a specialist it would take months before I actually got to see someone. I want to spend that time running!

Thankyou for any advice.
Click to view NoRacer083's profile Community Moderator 43 posts since
Jan 14, 2001
1. Apr 9, 2007 9:10 PM in response to: Rhinosout
IMHO, you may have a muscle imbalance in the muscles surrounding the knee. There are many exercises that can be done to strengthen these muscles none of which require weights. You may want to see what's available here for starters:

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/html/gym/gym_menu.html[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view jansd's profile Legend 418 posts since
Jun 8, 2003
2. Apr 9, 2007 9:10 PM in response to: Rhinosout
Sounds to me like a knee (kneecap) tracking problem. So, the trick will be to strengthen the muscles that support your knee (= quads) without stressing it further. My suggestions are bicycling for cross training. Here are a few exercises you can do instead of squats.
1. Sit in a chair with your feet on the floor. Lift one leg at a time with your leg still bent. Hold it a few seconds, while you feel the muscle engage. Do this several times on each side. If you work at a desk, you can do this throughout the day.
2. Stand sideways on a step with one leg off the step. (Stand on left leg with right leg off the step.) Slowly bend your standing leg and let your other leg hang, then straighten it. Repeat several times each both leg. The stronger you get, the deeper you will be able to bend. Don't bend more than 90 degrees.
Click to view nmcmurdo's profile Amateur 31 posts since
Sep 14, 2006
3. Apr 10, 2007 6:52 PM in response to: Rhinosout
Agree with both replies. I had the same issue as a teenager - Oddly, I remember the real test was that there was no way I could run up stairs two at a time!

Physio suggested weakness in the vastus medialus obliqus (the inside part of the quad that is shaped like a teardrop) and suggested exactly the exercise mentioned above. This worked well.