active network espn
Community: Exchange advice in the forums and read running commentary Resources: Personal running log, calculators, links and other tools for runners News: Running news from around the world Training: Articles and advice about fitness, race training and injury prevention Races/Results: Find upcoming races and past results Home: The Cool Running homepage
Cool Running homepage  Search Cool Running Community
Login to Reply
1 2 Previous Next
Click to view frodo22's profile Rookie 7 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

May 19, 2007 9:22 PM

Plantar Faciitis

Hi Everyone,
i don't ask for help very often ut I need some right now. I h ave been running for years. I have a couple of marathons under my belt so I have been around the block when i comes to aches and pains but this is a new one on me. I knw that this is common for runners so anyone who has had a bout with this and knows the remedyu, let me know.

My real concern is that i am having then best year i have ever had for running and i dont want to stop. 54 straight weeks with at least 15 miles! I would really like to keep it up. Am i Dreaming???

Help

------------------
Remember, left foot, right foot,left foot, right foot.

Frodo
Click to view SummerLynn's profile Rookie 4 posts since
May 15, 2007
1. May 21, 2007 8:16 AM in response to: frodo22
I'd like to know about this too. It is painful arches, right? I've definately got that. Very cramped and painful and my heels are very tight too. Love to know what I can do.
Click to view ForceD's profile Legend 523 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. May 21, 2007 8:30 AM in response to: frodo22
SummerLynn ? I?m not so sure your ailment is plantar faciitis. I?ve suffered from it a couple of times. The telltale sign is that it feels like you?re standing on a thumbtack (for me anyway)?or, sometimes mistaken for heel spurs. It hurts significantly for the first several steps when you first get out of bed (or have been off your feet for a while). That?s because while you slept the tear in the tendon healed. When you put weight on it you stretch it back out. My cases of it have always been such that I could run?albeit uncomfortable.

Frodo - To cure it you really need to stay off your feet as much as possible (no running) for what will seem like an eternity (weeks...months in some cases). Use of a night splint will help too.

Dan
Click to view Brian McN's profile Legend 240 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. May 21, 2007 8:33 AM in response to: frodo22
Worst injury I ever had. I would start all my runs limping feel preety good during the run only to feel the pain again within a half hour of stopping. Mornings were the worst.

Some remedies:

1) While sitting on the couch at night roll a golf ball under the affected area. This will break up scar tissue and also will increase blood flow.

2) After running put your foot in ice for about fifteen minutes or so. This will also reduce swelling and promote blood flow to the area.

3) When you can at rest elevate your foot, again helping to clear the old blood with gravity with your foot at a higher level then your heart.

4) An anti-inflamatory before your runs can help. Take with a bagel or something. Too much can lead to an ulcer.

5) Tape the area for running. I used to get great relief by doing this but it has to be done properly. Heelspurs.com has a diagram that will show you how to do this with regular sports tape.

6) The boot. There are boots for sale that stretch the tendons overnight. Your foot will feel better in the morning. Sometimes I had to take this boot off at night because it hurts after a few hours. I think you can also find a boot on heelspurs.com.

7) Place a pair of shoes next to the bed in the morning so you don't have to walk around barefoot. Slide right into them before leaving the bed.

Mine took eight months to go away. At one point I just accepted the fact that I would always have that injury. It's been gone for two years now. Good luck and be patient.
Click to view SummerLynn's profile Rookie 4 posts since
May 15, 2007
4. May 21, 2007 10:04 AM in response to: frodo22
This is nothing against anyone who gave info on this thread, but after some more research I know that I must have PF (in addition to whatever is causing my arch pain) and that resting for a very long time seems to not be the best method of healing. I ran across a thread from this site that has awesome info in regards to stretching for people with PF and I am truly encouraged and plan to do it today. I do have pain from it every morning and every time I get up from sitting for a little while. I hope the stretching and other methods work. Everyone should check out this link:
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum6/HTML/023958.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view ForceD's profile Legend 523 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. May 21, 2007 11:10 AM in response to: frodo22
This is how my doc explained it to me?and why it hurts more when you first get out of bed. As you sleep, your foot relaxes and the tension on the tendon is reduced. Think of it this way: When you?re standing your foot is at a 90-degree angle to your leg and there is tension on the tendons. When you lay down/sleep, the muscles and tendons relax and there more of an angle between your foot and leg (toe points away from the body). It is during this time that the plantar is healing. When you get out of bed and put weight on the foot (go back to a 90-degree angle), the partial healing in the afflicted area is pulled out again. That?s the initial pain you feel. But, if you sleep with the night splint that keeps your foot at a 90-degree angle, the tendon heals in that position. When you put weight on it you?re not pulling what just healed. Still, it takes lots of time for the tendon to heal.
Click to view chrisguz's profile Amateur 35 posts since
Dec 12, 2002
7. May 29, 2007 1:41 PM in response to: frodo22
Thanks for this discussion! I am 34. I have been running consistantly for over 10 years, and have been in the 20 - 40 mpw range for the last 5 or 6 years. I just started experiencing heel pain (mostly when I wake up in the morning) and it is driving me crazy. I want to be able to walk when I am older!

I just spent about 30 minutes on the web reading about foot pain... 2 questions I still have and hopefully someone has some insight...

1) Is there a way to avoid this? I never keep shoes too long, and I am careful about mileage increases, etc. I am trying to get better about stretching after runs. Unfortunately, I run on concrete (not a lot of options) and I have high arches.

2) Am I doing long term damage to my feet that will effect my ability to walk in 30 or 40 years?

Thanks!!!
Click to view hapydaze916's profile Rookie 5 posts since
Nov 27, 2007
8. Jun 1, 2007 5:13 AM in response to: frodo22
I have been diagnosed with it. I went to the doctor and they casted my feet for orthotics. I have woren them in my shoes everyday for 6 years and they just now cracked. It took a couple of days to get used to them being in my shoes but I noticed a huge difference right away, my feet felt better almost immediately.
I was also told not to walk around bare foot. I can't stand wearing shoes all of the time, but I have noticed that always having slippers or something on helps alot.
One shoe that the doctor told me to wear because it was great for really high arches and everyday use are New Balances. With a combination of everything I haven't had any problems with it until now, now that my orthotics are broken.

------------------
Everything is possible, the impossible just takes longer.


My Profile[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view Sosnoskix4's profile Amateur 11 posts since
Apr 14, 2007
9. Jun 2, 2007 11:41 PM in response to: frodo22
had it for 2 years...sucks sooo much...got in the beeginning of track season, played thru it the whole season icing it...then ended up getting a cast for 7 weeks and plenty of cortizone shots....not fun get it fixed the first time bcuz its hard to go away...
Click to view nocknee's profile Pro 128 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
10. Jun 7, 2007 7:32 PM in response to: frodo22
If it doesn't hurt in the morning, does that mean it's definitely not plantar fasciitis?
Click to view StPauligirl's profile Legend 244 posts since
Nov 27, 2006
11. Jun 9, 2007 4:51 AM in response to: frodo22
Im wondering these same things
I have a weird sensation in only my arch. It does NOT hurt when I wake up. I dont want it to turn to something bad, like PF which sounds horrible and long....it doesnt really hurt alot, I just notice it and I dont want it to get worse
those with PF...is this how yours started?
maybe I should rest now before Im forced to?
Click to view neverenough's profile Pro 159 posts since
Nov 5, 2006
12. Jun 9, 2007 11:39 PM in response to: frodo22
Mine only hurts when I run, after about 15 mins of running. It gradually builds until I feel a sharp biting pain which usually causes me to stop... and then I kind of massage it a little bit, I start running again, and it's not so bad. It's weird.
Click to view chrisguz's profile Amateur 35 posts since
Dec 12, 2002
13. Jun 13, 2007 5:22 PM in response to: frodo22
There sure is lots of confusion around this... Sounds like it may be tough to determine what the problem is because there are a few different foot injuries.

My heels are sorest in the mornings, and the pain goes away after a mile or so of jogging... however, now I can still feel slight pain all day long. I have incorporated the reverse calf raises and they help a lot! Icing doesn't seem to help much, but I may not be doing it enough.

I think my feet got worse when I added a lot of hill training which I read was a typical culprit.
Click to view vhm1's profile Pro 68 posts since
Jul 23, 2006
14. Jun 13, 2007 8:07 PM in response to: frodo22
My PF never hurt in the morning. One day I was standing in the kitchen, bare foot, and bent down to pick up something off of the floor. Stab! On my left heal. Within a few weeks it was on my right foot too.

See your doc. They'll xray to make sure its not a bone spur.

Stretch well. Roll a frozen can of veggies under your bare feet each night, about 2-3 min per foot. If the frozen metal stings, where thin socks. Sounds odd, but it really does help massage and stretch the PF muscle.

------------------
"Every passion has its
destiny." - Billy Mills, Olympic
Gold Medalist, 10,000 meters,
1964