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Click to view jthompson31's profile Amateur 10 posts since
Nov 29, 2007

Sep 27, 2007 1:19 PM

chiropractic

I'm working on a story about peoples successes and failures using a chiropractor for their running injuries. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks

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Click to view brianfie's profile Legend 316 posts since
Apr 6, 2001
1. Sep 27, 2007 4:16 PM in response to: jthompson31
I use advice from a chiropractor to manage most of the running injuries I encounter these days, though I have had nothing serious for a while. This has included advice on rehab and prevention (stretching and strengthing, etc). I have also had treatment for some emerging issues that I could not deal with myself. One example was a clicking tendon when walking upstairs. This was effectively treated in one session.
Click to view TommyL007's profile Pro 94 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Sep 27, 2007 4:22 PM in response to: jthompson31
My runnning buddy is an orthopedic surgeon. He does not recommend chiropractors.

Anyway, how do you find those guys, it's not like they are on every street corner
Click to view TommyL007's profile Pro 94 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
4. Sep 27, 2007 5:32 PM in response to: jthompson31
I will pass on the info.
Click to view DashinDave53's profile Rookie 4 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Sep 28, 2007 1:29 PM in response to: jthompson31
A little over 3 years ago, I hearniated my L3/L4 disc; probably because I cinched up my weightbelt too much when I went diving. Anyway, I was on laid up for an entire week and still had siatica problems for about a month afterwards.

My PCP sent me for an MIR which confirmed the problem. He gave me a list of surgons "in case I needed them".

A friend of mine suggested I go see her chirpractor so I gave it a shot. After I (literally) crawled in for my first appointment, I was seeing him 3 times/week. Up until a month ago, I was down to 1 visit every 2 months and "still vertical".

This year, I started running in March. Doin' fine up until a couple of weeks ago when, based on what I've seen on this website and a bunch of other websources, I tore my calf muscle. That was the day before my regullarly scheduled chiro visit. When I went in, I didn't say anything, hopeing he'd see what I've been feeling. Right away, he noticed that my left leg was TOTALLY out of whack and proceded with a bunch of adjustments in that area.

Hopefully, it will help with the musclemending, and I can start slowly getting back to where I was before.

Couple of things; my chiro does not use hand manipulation. He has this little plunger thingie that resembles a miniature pogostick. He feels around for the verterbrea/bond/joint that is out, lines up this little wonder tool, and pulls the trigger, WHACK.

Another thing, the usual disclaimers apply, your milage may vary, professional driver on a closed track, read the prospectus carefully, yadda, yadda. In other words, everybody's results may be different, but for me, I constantly sing this guy's praises.

And hopefully, I'll be lacing them up SOON!

Good luck!
Click to view PB2's profile Pro 87 posts since
Apr 21, 2007
6. Sep 28, 2007 3:40 PM in response to: jthompson31
quote:<HR>Originally posted by jthompson31:
I'm working on a story about peoples successes and failures using a chiropractor for their running injuries. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks

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phil maffetone is a chiropractor and a big name in sports. his articles and books have helped me a lot in injury recovery (and now prevention -- i'm injury free for the past 3 years with much more training). not sure if he's still in sports. i know he recently came out with a rock music album. www.philmaffetone.com[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view brianfie's profile Legend 316 posts since
Apr 6, 2001
7. Sep 29, 2007 11:20 AM in response to: jthompson31
It's not surprising that orthopedic surgeons and chiropractors dont get on.

Chiropractors see surgery as a last resort or failure. Surgeons do surgery.

Sure there are quack chiropractors, perhaps more than in more manstream medicine, I don't really know for sure, but f you get a good one, they can be wonderful.

Note chiropractors in the US get proper medical training, like doctors - not so in the UK. Not sure about other countries.

-b
Click to view Kegan36604005's profile Pro 169 posts since
Jun 1, 2006
8. Dec 26, 2007 5:46 PM in response to: jthompson31
quote:<HR>Originally posted by TommyL:
My runnning buddy is an orthopedic surgeon. He does not recommend chiropractors.......

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My running buddy owns a McDonalds. He doesn't recommend Pizza Hut.

Seriously, I have had some serious back problems, and have used a Chiropractor, a Sports Medicine D.O. and family doc who referred me to an orthopedic surgeon. At the end of the day it was boiled down to the Orthopedic and Chiropractor for treatment. I did the whole MRI, epidural, physical therapy route. Still in pain, the Ortho was ready to book an operating suite for me. I went Chiro and am now feeling fine and running injury free.

I don't mean to imply that a Chiropractor is interchangable with an Orthopedic MD; or visa versa, but they both have their place.

Final thoughts on Chiro's. Go with recommendations. After treatment by several Chiro's over the years, I would only go to a Palmer College grad. The other big school just doen't cut it. My $.02

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Click to view Bugs34's profile Legend 616 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
9. Oct 7, 2007 9:51 PM in response to: jthompson31
I saw a chiropractor for hip and leg issues while training for the Twin Cities Marathon. She repeatedly said, "I get runners through these types of injuries all the time, you're going to make your marathon just fine." Today was the marathon, I did not make it to the start line.

I was on a 10 mile run, when it felt like my hip exploded, and then the pain eased, but the rest of the run I felt off. I had tilted my pelvis 3 other times, in other sports, and was suspicious I had done it again.

The next day I went to the Chiropractor and told her about my hip pain, and a dull aching pain in my calf that had just started. She said my hip flexors were very tight. I really didn't think my hip pain was that bad, but when she started pressing, and had me stretch, it was clear I was very tight. She did not address my calf pain. She gave me the clear to keep running. I saw her three times that week for electronic stimulation on my glutes and adjustments. I ran a total of 50 miles that week.

The next week since my hips were aching, and my leg was worse. I went to a different chiropractor. She said my one leg was 3/4 of inch shorter because of tilted pelvis. Still she gave me the clear to run but I was very concerned about the shorter leg and my leg pain and decided to only aqua jog.

I saw her for the next three weeks, but pelvis would tilt hours after her adjustments. It was very frustrating. She kept encouraging to run, "just a short run" she said. But every time I tried my leg felt wrong, and I stopped.

Finally after four weeks of me raising concern over my leg, she finally tried something to help me with my leg, and did the electronic stimulation on my calf. She also suggested Graston, and acupuncture.

Instead I went to my family doctor who did an x-ray, bone scan, and then MRI. I have been diagnosed with a stress fracture in my tibia.

I regret going to the chiropractor. I think had I gone to my family doctor, and requested physical therapy I may have been able to prevent the stress fracture, or at least identify the injury sooner.

Chiropractors rush you in and out of the office. They do the adjustments, without taking time to address what is causing the adjustments to keep being needed.
Click to view Tamalina's profile Legend 1,594 posts since
Aug 14, 2007
10. Oct 8, 2007 1:27 PM in response to: jthompson31
I'm sorry that that happened to you Bugs. I know from reading some of your posts over the last year, that you are a very talented and dedicated runner, so I'm sorry you had this set back.

just like any profession there are good and there are bad. And there are some that are good, but make the wrong call in a certain circumstance. I've gone to my sports chiro for treatment of my ITBS and had a very successful outcome. I've now been running painfree for a little over one year and have worked my way up to 15 miles, when prior to that I could not do more than 2 miles w/o pain.

Traditional doctors sometimes make the wrong call, lawyers sometimes make the wrong call, etc. . . . . doesn't mean that I would never go to a doctor again, or never seek the counsel of an attorney again. Once my chiro adjusted my back and I felt great til the next day - then felt worse and had to go back. That was once, in the 5 yrs that I've been going to him. Doesn't mean that one bad adjustment means I have lost all faith in him and his abilities. I still believe strongly in the healing of chiropractic, acupuncture and massage. It's unfortunate though when people either do have a bad experience or a misdiagnosis - it happens in every profession.
Click to view Harlick187's profile Amateur 33 posts since
Jan 11, 2007
11. Oct 8, 2007 10:56 PM in response to: jthompson31
I am an avid golfer and runner, as a result I put a great deal of stress on my body. When I first injured my back I had pain going down into my legs and I was in a lot of pain. I went to an orthopedist who without evan touching me said, "you need to have surgery". I asked him about medications, physical therapy, and chiropractic. His response was what ever you do "don't goto the chiropractor". I had an MRI which revealed a herniated disc, I refused surgery, he referred me to a physical therapist and a month later I still had pain shooting down my leg. So I asked what else we could do, and he still recommended surgery. I am stubborn and I look at surgery as the very last option. So I went to a chiropractor, and one month later I was pain free and golfing. I went in to see the orthopedist and told him he better start referring to chiropractors. He refused to believe that chiropractic was what helped me.

About two months ago I started developing a sharp pain in the arch of my foot. I wen to a diferent orthopedist who told me my calves are tight and I need to loosen them. But this did nothing for my foot pain. I decided to see what the chiropractor would say. He treated me by adjusting my foot, and ankle. He also used acupuncture on my calf and foot. He also recommended that I take the stick and use it on my calves and stand on a tennis ball. My foot is almost 100%, I'm golfing and running again, and I'm glad I looked for other alternatives.
Click to view Ariann092's profile Legend 681 posts since
Jan 4, 2005
12. Oct 9, 2007 6:39 PM in response to: jthompson31
I had bulging discs in my neck, confirmed by MRI (initial symptom was a numb right arm). I went to PT for three months, which left me with a lot of pain. My family doctor actually suggested I go to the chiropractor, which has been extremely helpful and helped me almost entirely overcome my pain (in addition to doing the exercises both he and the PT gave me).