So there was this big group of former CR B&B'ers who went over to Kick and began posting there. Some continued to dual-post, both here and there, and some left completely. I commented on this recently here, and those I named came over to deny that they have left, but of course they did.

So if you go look at the daily on Kick, you will find two groups of people. A very small group of original (that is to say, Kickrunners who had been there for ages and not from CR) members, and a very large group of former CR B&B'ers. Next time Kick gets back up, go count them for yourself. They are predominantly former CR B&B'ers posting on the site that Kick was kind enough to provide for the CR migraters, and that is what surprised me about Lab's post. Someone started the daily yesterday on Kick with a comment in the title line about "snow" and that apparently set him off about the east coast influence, implying that the PNW influence has somehow been disturbed. I believe he simply meant that the Masters daily had been small and intimate, and now there was such an influx of new people, he was uncomfortable. He is entitled to that opinion, but as Sierra points out, and as we all know, Kick is not set up to discriminate for or against groups of people. To succeed and be fair it has to welcome all.

I didn't concern myself with Lab's post, although I was surprised by it, because I know he is on the DL right now. He is a strong athlete and this is a tough time for him. I too get grouchy when injured, as I am now.

But I wish that runningbehind would have been specific about what the problem was. The complaints seemed vague to me. I perceive no difference in the tone or content of the daily in CR vs. the daily over in Kick. I wish one of them would just say what the problem is. As to private jokes, comments about fines, etc., all of those things exist in any community forum. They are not intended to harm anyone, and since the majority of the population in that daily comes from here, I don't see how such remarks would confuse anyone. Spareribs (or Spareribs049, as they call me now here)

Mark

Change is a funny thing. Everyone likes the results that change eventually brings, but no one likes the process of change. With even the BEST of changes, there is always a sacrifice that is realized. Most of us like the CR forum of Boomers. Quite honestly, the support I received from everyone and the accountability has brought me from someone who ran 58 miles during the year of 2003 to now staring at 1,000 miles for 2007. (I am now at 961 for those who have been following my chase for 1,000). While I will never win any races for speed, I am having a FANTASTIC time learning and maintaining the best overall shape that I have EVER been in and that includes the days when I was playing serious basketball. So to lose the influence of ANYONE ....hurts me.

Granted, the forum sometimes takes a funny or strange twist during some days. With so many posting, there are a lot of private little jokes and conversations that go on. While it has nothing to do with me, I enjoy it and am amused by it. Sometimes a bit of nonsense is good for us to watch.

Some of you will remember my attempt at trying to focus on certain races for Boomer meetings to occur. While some people thought it was a GREAT idea and encouraged me to do that, I was more or less told by others to mind my own business and that Boomer meetings could happen without my interference. Well, unfortunately my good intentions was misconstrued as me trying to interfere with the excellent work of people I had wanted to help. All of that being said only points out that on line communities can sometimes get confusing as people don't always see eye to eye with each other. The irony in this situation was that my goal was accomplished for what I was trying to do, and I didn't end up needing to do anything.

Anyway, let's all try to be patient. I don't believe anyone is out there intending to cause us grief. They have told us that they are working hard to get things going smoother and improved. I would just hate to lose the influence and help of ANY of you from CR Boomers who have helped me with my running. I am sure many of you have NO idea of the impact and influence you wield through your daily postings, race reports, and sharing of your experiences. I am hoping this will continue in the days, months and yes, even years ahead. We will figure out the best route. I am already excited at how we are talking through this.

YOU ARE APPRECIATED and I personally THANK YOU !!!!!

Joey

I had to post something somewhere. I'm going through withdrawals. It's either this or drinking. Hey, maybe both. Yah.... that's the ticket.

But because you accused me, that's a buck! (loved your post though) Spareribs