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Click to view hermosaboy001's profile Legend 920 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

Dec 8, 2007 3:31 PM

More Miles Than Degrees

So, the cold and snow has hit the midwest. As evidence, here's a picture of KeeMan after he and I ran 11 miles when the air temp was around 4 -- windchill unknown.

Any warm weather runners want to join us?

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Click to view ksrunr's profile Legend 957 posts since
Aug 14, 2007
1. Dec 26, 2007 11:39 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
No! I've been in MN in the winter.

Edited to add it's 82 degrees here and 75% humidity. Maybe we could meet in the middle somewhere.

ksrunr

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2. Dec 8, 2007 3:47 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
Nice icicle!

Best I can do is say I got 8 miles in 5 degree wind chill temps today. Air temp was probably 12. Can I count it?

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3. Dec 8, 2007 3:55 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
i'm going to save that shot and pull it out again in the middle of june...

go keeman go! winter icicles build super spring sprints!
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4. Dec 8, 2007 9:30 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
I couldn't do it even if we used celcius. But it sure looks pretty from here.
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5. Dec 9, 2007 4:24 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
hermosaboy,

Actually that looks like a great workout. Where I am it's 70F and 80% every morning.

This may seem like a silly question, but do you think you are able to train more intensely in your type of weather than in the summer heat and humidity.

When you finish the run are you drenched in perspiration or are you pretty much dry?

Ted
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6. Dec 9, 2007 5:28 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
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Goodness, it looks like he has a horn growing out of his chin!

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8. Dec 9, 2007 7:28 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
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Are ya nuts???

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9. Dec 10, 2007 6:30 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
I will join the club. I did 3 miles at 1 below zero.

In February I ran 10 miles at 17 below. I did loops around a building in the industial park (1/4 mile). I parked my van and left it running with the heater on so every 8 laps I could hop in and warm up.

The coldest weather I ever ran in was 23 below zero. At 1.5 miles my toes were numb so I stopped. I am not sure what is the coldest wind chill I have run in, but it is more than 30 below.
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10. Dec 10, 2007 7:05 PM in response to: hermosaboy001
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I ran 8 at 3 degrees.


OK...it was KM and Celsius

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Click to view TedAndresen's profile Legend 231 posts since
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11. Dec 11, 2007 2:42 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
quote:<HR>Originally posted by hermosaboy:
Drenched!!! I do find that the HR is a lot higher when the temps are down and snow is on the ground. However, the same thing happens in heat and humidity...<HR>


Wow! I run in Florida where we have different problems.

Is it possible to dress in severely cold weather so that you don't get drenched. Are there clothes that would let someone, not freeze, but shed some heat after they warmed up?

I see that as a pretty tough thermo problem. It seems like a delicate balance. If you start out with not enough covering, you will be cold and stiff from the beginning. Then, when you heat up, there is no way to shed the insulating clothing so that you can shed the extra body heat.

I could see where it would be a minute-to-minute problem. Suppose you ran up a hill against a strong wind, you'd generate a lot of extra heat. But, it would be hard to continuously adjust the insulation so you could shed the heat before you start sweating and got wet. It seems like you would have to wear clothing that you could constantly adjust to keep you warm and limber without sweating and getting wet.

Is that they way it is in cold conditions.

Ted
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12. Dec 11, 2007 8:30 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
quote:<HR>Originally posted by TedAndresen:
Wow! I run in Florida where we have different problems.

Is it possible to dress in severely cold weather so that you don't get drenched. Are there clothes that would let someone, not freeze, but shed some heat after they warmed up?

I see that as a pretty tough thermo problem. It seems like a delicate balance. If you start out with not enough covering, you will be cold and stiff from the beginning. Then, when you heat up, there is no way to shed the insulating clothing so that you can shed the extra body heat.

I could see where it would be a minute-to-minute problem. Suppose you ran up a hill against a strong wind, you'd generate a lot of extra heat. But, it would be hard to continuously adjust the insulation so you could shed the heat before you start sweating and got wet. It seems like you would have to wear clothing that you could constantly adjust to keep you warm and limber without sweating and getting wet.

Is that they way it is in cold conditions.

Ted
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I haven't done more miles than degrees yet this season, but it's still early.

To answer your question, yes you can dress for winter workouts so that you don't come back drenched. It's all a matter of layering, and of wearing clothes that will move moisture away from your body. It is also knowing that you might be a little chilly at the start of your workout, but you'll usually get comfortable quickly enough. If you are comfortable at the start of your workout, you will surely overheat.

My hands are almost always cold, so I have to overprotect them. Other than that, I try to wear as little as I can get away with. At 19 degrees this morning, I had on tights, a couple of wicking shirts and a windbreaker, a wicking hat and my mittens. I came back comfortable and just a slight bit damp.

Jay
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13. Dec 11, 2007 8:59 AM in response to: hermosaboy001
Re: More Miles Than Degrees
quote:<HR>Originally posted by hermosaboy:

So, the cold and snow has hit the midwest. As evidence, here's a picture of KeeMan after he and I ran 11 miles when the air temp was around 4 -- windchill unknown.

<HR>


Been there done that! I know the feeling and have even had my eyelids freeze shut from persperation freezing...I had to open them with my fingers.

And the frost around your hat and goves or mittes just flakes off it's actually kind of neat!

You gotta do what you gotta do right!



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