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Kevin Shaw

158 posts since
Nov 3, 2007

105. Dec 27, 2007 12:08 AM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by newMIrunner:
Not sure about any of you, but I am very anti-wind! I'd rather it rain. Anyway, the temps look reasonable. One more last minute worry: Are there porta potties on the route? I didn't see them listed anywhere on the website. For those who have run this in the past, can you help? Thanks!<HR>

If I remember correctly, last year there were porta potties at just about every aid station. Seemed to be enough to go around.

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just checked the online map and clicked on porta potties and up cam 12 porta potty locations plus the start and finish . The appear to be co located with each water stop, not aid stations (but I bet they are there too)

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RandumbOne

5 posts since
Aug 18, 2007

106. Oct 25, 2007 6:20 PM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

Flying out in the morning, and the weather is looking better all the time. Good luck to everyone.

danerunsalot

105 posts since
Oct 13, 2007

107. Oct 26, 2007 2:49 AM

in response to: eryn23

Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Snooze Traveler:
Ha. That's funny.

I can't wait to run around hand holding chains, six people wide.

On a more positive note, I am feeling good about this race. We got long runs of 18, 19, 20, and 21 under our belts, and alot of good speed work. I am just hoping for a little better weather than Chicago experienced. Although, anything is better than running in Florida.<HR>

I get ornery on race morning. If the purple people or sixabreasters line up in front of me in the first corral, I am pretty sure I wil run over them.

gregw070

250 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

108. Oct 26, 2007 5:55 AM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

Breezy is back. Ugh. I think I'm bad luck for windy marathons. I ran MCM last year, which was windy, and then Frederick in May which was even windier.

Right now accuweather says 15 mph from the NNW at 11am and noon. Route 110 runs NW, so we should be running into a 15mph headwind for the last couple of miles. Should be a cross wind, or even a slight tailwind, crossing the 14th street bridge though.

Temps looks very good though. 56 at 11am according to accuweather.

Kevin Shaw

158 posts since
Nov 3, 2007

109. Oct 26, 2007 8:26 AM

in response to: eryn23

Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by danerunsalot:
I get ornery on race morning. If the purple people or sixabreasters line up in front of me in the first corral, I am pretty sure I wil run over them.<HR>

To compound the issue, there are no formal corrals this year. You are expected to "self seed" yourself. Like THAT's going to happen

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It doesn't mater whether you're a lion or an antelope - when the sun comes up, you'd better be running."

PacerChris

763 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

110. Oct 26, 2007 8:36 AM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

Good luck to everyone running MCM this weekend - I wish I was going to be there as it's got a soft spot in my heart (my first marathon - 12 years ago!). Hopefully the breezes are less vicious than last year! Make good use of the Clif Bar Pace Team, especially if it's windy you can draft off them! They aren't the widest bodies around, but it's better than nothing!

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Twocat

404 posts since
Oct 12, 2006

111. Oct 26, 2007 9:43 AM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

I need to meet up with my friend at the race start. Neither of us have ever run this race before nor do we live in the DC area. Any suggestions regarding a good spot to look for each other?

jsprick054

25 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

112. Oct 26, 2007 1:17 PM

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I have been looking at the maps, trying to figure out how the actual course is going to be, and one map (interactive one) on the website has a slightly different route than the other one (pdf). They take different routes from Hains point to VA, going on different bridges. Does anyone know if we will go over the Rochambeau bridge or the Arland Williams Jr memorial bridge?

as far as meeting up with someone before the race, I don't really know of a good place. maybe at some monument around the cemetary?

gregw070

250 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

113. Oct 26, 2007 1:22 PM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by PacerChris:
Good luck to everyone running MCM this weekend - I wish I was going to be there as it's got a soft spot in my heart (my first marathon - 12 years ago!). Hopefully the breezes are less vicious than last year! Make good use of the Clif Bar Pace Team, especially if it's windy you can draft off them! They aren't the widest bodies around, but it's better than nothing!

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You need a 3:15 pacer!

Seriously, how much extra time you bank for 2 miles solo into a 15 mph headwind (up route 110)? I'm figuring that if (by some miracle) I'm on pace at that point that everybody will be slowing down and there won't be anyone to draft off of.

IceStorm213

354 posts since
Nov 1, 2005

114. Oct 26, 2007 1:42 PM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by gregw:
You need a 3:15 pacer!

Seriously, how much extra time you bank for 2 miles solo into a 15 mph headwind (up route 110)? I'm figuring that if (by some miracle) I'm on pace at that point that everybody will be slowing down and there won't be anyone to draft off of.<HR>

If you're on pace in the last two miles, you ain't gonna be drafting. Keep picking people out to pass and whip yourself to the end. Knowing that you're precariously close to BQ, I wouldn't risk blowing up early and try to bank more than a minute or so. BAA already gives you a 59-second cushion, so you can drop 30 seconds/mile off your target pace over the last four miles and still make it. When I squeaked in, one of my mantras over the last 5 miles was "I'll never forgive myself" as in I'll never forgive myself for putting in 21 quality miles and not giving it everything I had from there on in. (The other mantra was "it only hurts, it won't hurt me")

For my money, the problem with 110 is that it's so dang ugly and boring. There's nothing fun about running on a freeway.

On another note, there's nothing more satisfying than going through the packet pickup on a Friday morning before the crowds take over.

PacerChris

763 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

115. Oct 27, 2007 8:11 AM

in response to: eryn23

Re: Marine Corps Marathon

That final tretch isn't easy - try to bank your time from 8 to 20/22, but not more than 5-10 sconds per mile. Ifyou start to get tired late in the race, talk yourself into pushing hard for 1-2 minutes and then settle back down into your 7:20-7:25 pace - that little push will make you realize that 7:20's are easy by comparison. It's a mental game - build your bank up to ~90 seconds by 21 and then try to hold 7:30 for one more mile...at 22 tell yourself the same thing, then again at 23. Keep telling yourself 1 more mile - if you can get to 24 and still have 1 minute, you can back off a little and rest for 1 mile and then finish strong.

Snooze Traveler

72 posts since
Feb 18, 2005

116. Oct 27, 2007 12:30 PM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

Gmaclin- I had remembered your XL a while back for Boston and had attempted to mess with it to work with MCM. I am quite glad you did it, because yours actually works.

Thanks a ton. Itll be a fun toy to play with today.

gregw070

250 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

117. Oct 27, 2007 12:51 PM

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James & Chris,

Thanks for the advice. I made a 3:15:00 pace band with gmaclin's spreadsheet. It seems to fit right in with your advice. Here's hoping I don't rip it off in disgust during the race

Thanks,
Greg

dgb2n

139 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

118. Dec 27, 2007 12:08 AM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

Much against my better judgement, I'm running tomorrow as well.

Not as trained as I would like but I'm going to go slow (about 30 minutes slower than the McMillan pace calculator estimates and run it like a training run.

Agreed to go at the last minute to support a co-worker who is probably in worst shape than I am.

Best of luck to all. If you're watching, Peach, you're going to do great. I won't be cheering on the sidelines but I'll be cheering for you.

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IceStorm213

354 posts since
Nov 1, 2005

119. Oct 27, 2007 4:05 PM

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Re: Marine Corps Marathon

quote:<HR>Originally posted by gregw:
James & Chris,

Thanks for the advice. I made a 3:15:00 pace band with gmaclin's spreadsheet. It seems to fit right in with your advice. Here's hoping I don't rip it off in disgust during the race

Thanks,
Greg<HR>

of course, the wind is back

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