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pithydoug

29 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

30. Oct 23, 2007 5:57 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by runNYtrails:

You are right about NYS . . . a lot of variety and some real beauty. The trails seem just right for me ... they are beautiful, fun and technically challenging tho i don't think they compare in difficulty to some of the other NE races ... as far as c l i m b i n g. Hope yer feets feel better and that You can get out there this week end !!<HR>

For a real stroke of beauty try Minnewaska or Mohonk parks especially this time of the year. How about the Escarpment trail in general or the race in July. I work the finish line for this little puppy. Just a dinky 30k with about 9,000 feet of roots and rocks.

I live near Woodstock, NY and there are incredible trails all over the place. Sure I/we get whomped with taxes but when I'm on the trails I consider it a fee keeping so much of it wild.

I will admit I'm a little tentative with hunting season. Too many NYC folks coming up with big guns looking to shoot anything that moves.

Gregolowe

324 posts since
Jul 6, 2006

31. Oct 24, 2007 2:02 PM

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Hey fattie. I haven't checked in here for a couple of days. I think your instincts about the socks are correct. Heat, moisture, and friction lead to blisters. Good socks can help eliminate the moisture. I use smartwool real thin running socks. I did all of my trail running in sandals and NEVER had any issues with blisters. I attribute that to the breathability of the sandal, letting moisture escape. So it may be your shoes too. You may want to opt into a show with more mesh. Don't use shoes with Goretex either, or any waterproofing for that matter. You know you lose a pint of sweat through your feet a day? So, it sounds like heat and moisture buildup in your shoes. They may be too loose too allowing slippage in there too. So, shoes and socks sis may be the ticket. Good luck.

fatozzig039

486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006

32. Oct 24, 2007 4:25 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by Gregolowe:
Hey fattie. . . . So, shoes and socks sis may be the ticket. Good luck. <HR>

"Fattie" - Not sure I like that shortened version . . . I am female, so we're sensitive to those names, you know.

I'm gonna go for a sock change and look for SmartWool. Katemd also recommended the old tried and true duct tape. I'll give that a try this weekend until I can get some new socks. Oh my . . . I must go shopping!

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runNYtrails

121 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

33. Oct 24, 2007 6:19 PM

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fatozzig - do You lube ? This is a great refererence book
for all kinds of foot problems/issues : Fixing Your Feet by John Vonhof & here is a link to his site. Lots of good recommendations.

http://www.fixingyourfeet.com/index.html[/URL" target="_blank">

Also, re the girrrrl/boy issue in this here thread . . . girrrrrlie, girl ! runNYtrails is definitely a girrrrrl !!

fatozzig039

486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006

34. Oct 24, 2007 11:38 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by runNYtrails:
[b]

fatozzig - do You lube ?
[/B]<HR>

Um, I'm not sure how to take this question . . . . . . .

I ordered the book the other day through Amazon. Hopefully it'll be here soon.

Girls seem to be ruling on this thread right now! Alright! Chicks Rule! (Sorry, Greg)

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Kitrin

38 posts since
Sep 24, 2007

35. Oct 24, 2007 11:54 PM

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runNY,

I am heading out to Syracuse on Saturday and will be in the area until 6 Nov. Do you have recommendations on where to find a good trail to run? I will end up all over (Watertown, Syracuse, maybe Fingerlakes). I will see what I can find on the web too.

My husband and I are thinking about staying somewhere in the wine country near the Fingerlakes during the weekend of 2-5 Nov. I remember you mentioned good trails out there too. According to the long range forecast, it looks like I will have to pack some running clothes for cooler weather.

Cheers,
Kitrin

Gregolowe

324 posts since
Jul 6, 2006

36. Oct 25, 2007 8:54 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by fatozzig:
"Fattie" - Not sure I like that shortened version . . . I am female, so we're sensitive to those names, you know.

<HR>

Uh, yeah...you girls totally rule. Tough, and strong. I hear ya roarin....waahhhh.

runNYtrails

121 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

37. Dec 27, 2007 2:11 AM

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fatozzig -

quote:<HR>I'm not sure how to take this question . . . . . .<HR>

FEET, I'm talkin' feet !

I have no experience with calluses and very little with blisters.
I have always lubed on runs longer than a couple hours.
That seems to work for me. Hopefully the foot book will have
some specific refererences to your callus/blister problem.
If you are a member of the ultraserve list there are some very
experienced runners who could probably help you more.

Kitrin -

I hope you enjoy your time in NYS, the weather has been pretty nice for
this time of year. Based on what you have posted here re your running experience a couple trails do come to mind.

Green Lakes State Park in Fayetteville, NY which is just SE of Syracuse. There is a very nice loop around the lakes, seems like it would be perfect for You ! I think its just about 3miles. A very lovely run and not too isolated if that's an issue for you. You can add on to that by heading up into the hills. There you will find some single track and a little more technical trail running but not too hard.

If you do some poking around in the Finger Lakes check out Fillmore Glen State Park located in Moravia , NY which is at the bottom of Owasco Lake SW of Syracuse but not too far really. From the website -
" . . . an oasis of cool, dense woods crowding into a long, narrow gorge. Its hiking trails offer spectacular views, unique geological formations, including five waterfalls, and a botanically rich glen." It's a great trail !

If you are interested in more technical stuff there is the Finger Lakes Trail which runs all through the area. Its great running. You can probably get more info on that from the Finger Lakes Running Club website.

If there is a specific area you are going to lmk and i will see if i have anything for You. I am not familiar with the Watertown area though.

Have fun, I'll be looking fwd to hearing all about it !!

http://This message has been edited by runNYtrails (edited Oct-26-2007).

fatozzig039

486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006

38. Oct 27, 2007 3:34 PM

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Just pokin' my head to see what everyone's been up to. This was my last long run before my HM in Monterey in two weeks. And blister central! #$%*!!!!!! I got the book, "Fixing Your Feet" and tried some of the taping techniques w/duct tape, but I need more experience. The thicker moleskin didn't do anything for me. I'm going to go look for BodyGlide today. I'm beginning to wonder if the cover on my orthotics is part of the problem (leather over foam).

Felt really good for the 12 miles I did today, though, so that's a positive. Well, good until I started walking for my cool down. My legs were like, "Um . . . take this for pushing us that hard!"

Happy Trails!

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Kitrin

38 posts since
Sep 24, 2007

39. Oct 29, 2007 8:00 PM

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Hello All!

I made it to NY but one of my bags did not. Of course, it was the one with all my most important belongings. It's always that way. This one is in some kind of major void because nobody knows where it is and I arrived more than 48 hours ago. Sigh.

In light of this, I ended up pounding pavement instead of running a nice trail today. I have spent so much time on the phone trying to learn where my bag is that I ran out of time to run anywhere else. MAN! My knee hurts. I hope it gets better soon.

I only ran four about 40-45 minutes. Maybe it was a little depression over what is lost in the missing bag. Maybe it was running on pavement. Maybe it was because I did not run for a week. Whatever the case, I struggled and this was one of the most difficult runs I ever undertook.

From what I hear, a bad run is usually followed by a good one. I sure hope so. I was looking forward to this SO MUCH.

Kitrin

runNYtrails

121 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

40. Oct 30, 2007 8:30 AM

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Kitrin - Yikes !

Sorry 'bout yer stuff getting lost. Hope it shows up soon and that you are able to experience at least one of the trails in the area or at least the Canal path that You wanted to do. I am down n out too and not been able to run since my last event on the 20th ... I'm getting a little anxious but I know that the rest is also good for me.

Fatozzig - Tell us about the 1/2M you have coming up ! Is it a road run or on a trail ? A local event ?

I hope to be able to report some trail running or at least some walking by weeks end but right now . . . i got nuthin' !!

fatozzig039

486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006

41. Oct 30, 2007 2:28 PM

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The HM is in Monterey, http://www.bigsurhalfmarathon.org.[/URL" target="_blank"> One of the main reasons I signed up for it (besides a beautiful location) is a local artist makes the finishers' medallions, and ones from past years look pretty cool. The race starts at 7:00 a.m., and unless I completely bomb, I think I can finish in about 2:20. We're going to spend Saturday at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. Haven't been there in about 17 years.

My bud, Karen and I also just signed up for our first official marathon.

The Bizz Johnson, www.bizzjohnson.com.[/URL" target="_blank"> It's a flat trail run that's also a qualifier for Boston. No, I'm not planning on trying to qualify - although that would be a hoot! . . . not to mention a miracle.

Other trail runs we've picked for next year are run by Pacific Coast Trail Runs, www.pctrailruns.com.[/URL" target="_blank"> March 22 - Pirates Cove, May 25 - Forest Park in Portland, OR, and July 20 - Salt Point. We're hoping to be ready to try a 50k at Pirates Cove, but if not, then definitely Forest Park, which I believe her sister, Kate (katemd on CR), will be running, as well. We'll also probably participate in the Trinidad to Clam Beach Run in the 8 3/4, http://www.trinidadtoclambeach.com.[/URL" target="_blank"> They're not doing a HM this year, unfortunately.

Later!

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Gregolowe

324 posts since
Jul 6, 2006

42. Oct 31, 2007 3:31 PM

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Pokin my head in. Haven't run in two weeks. I have Morton's Nueroma in my feet (swollen nerves-ouch!) and bronchitis. I had flu like symptoms two weeks ago. Right hammie was on the verge of a big time injury. I could feel it comin. It hurt to walk for about a week. Thought it might be wise to stop running for awhile. The 50 miler put a much bigger beatin on me than I realized I think. So, I'm listening to my body and chillin. I'm jonesin' for some running though. Had some nice e mail correspondence with Anthony Krupicka about minimalist footwear. Karl Meltzer interacted with me too about his training. Kind of cool to be part of a sport where you can interact with the big timers...and they're cool. Good luck fattie in you HM. Hope you figure out the blister thing. Katie, sorry about the bag. Why don't you try goin barefoot? May help your knee too. As a side note, this thread could get unweildy if we keep using the same one. Just a thought.

fatozzig039

486 posts since
Aug 9, 2006

43. Nov 1, 2007 10:52 AM

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Started a new thread for November - NTR ET (NEO's Nov. Thread). See ya over there!

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