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Jan 28, 2007 1:54 AM

Diet Thread?

Hey there, just added this page to my faves! Can we have a thread for Diet? Not necessarily "diets" but just what we are all eating, recipes, encouragement, etc? I am 5'9 and no matter how thin I get I will never be out of the Athena category b/c 150 is the lowest I can wiegh and still look healthy for my body type. I am 205 at the moment and would love to lose 40+ lbs.
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1. Jan 28, 2007 2:33 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
Re: Diet Thread?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by StarieEyed06:
Hey there, just added this page to my faves! Can we have a thread for Diet? Not necessarily "diets" but just what we are all eating, recipes, encouragement, etc? I am 5'9 and no matter how thin I get I will never be out of the Athena category b/c 150 is the lowest I can wiegh and still look healthy for my body type. I am 205 at the moment and would love to lose 40+ lbs.<HR>


Of course we can..The one thing that I found out was when buying running books and their standard "diet" for a runner did not translate to someone of my size. Plus I am trying to drop weight but not lose energy and not starve. So yes I think we could have one or more separate threads. One on what the diets we are on, one for receipies, and one for our weight loss each week.

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2. Jan 28, 2007 8:49 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Hey-
Thanks for starting this board, btw. I've been dieting, slowly, for a few years (losing nearly 50 pounds so far, probably another 30 to go.) My challenge is to eat enough carbs/fat/protein to fuel my running so I don't feel like carp out there (training for a summer half). I feel like it's a very fine line between getting enough, and getting too much. Of course part of it is just loving to eat, but truthfully constant salads don't work for runners (or at least me). I've been trying to just add a bit more peanut butter, and a bit more whole grains. We'll see if that helps.
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3. Jan 28, 2007 8:58 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
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During training you cannot DIET. It's a mental thing you must change. I'm only 75% of the way there, but I've made progress.

You have to start making permanent lifestyle changes. And you know what, it's really hard. Not impossible, but hard.

So, I'll start since I'm chiming in like a know-it-all!

For me, one of the first lifestyle changes were
1. No fried foods. None. Nada. Nyet.
2. No McDonalds (CAVEAT: Still got Diet Coke, Fruit and Walnut snack, and Scrambled Eggs in a bind).
3. Drink more water. OMG More water. No less than 3L/day.

Some people have to go cold turkey. Usually, that's not me. I wean myself off stuff.

Some people (women mostly, but men too) are emotional issues. This may mean addressing those deep dark secrets.

You will find your palate changes over time. I no longer WANT a BigMac but yet I used to eat lunch at McDs every day for years. Now, I couldn't stomache one. Ug, I'm queasy right now.

p.s. Fat people are pathological liars. Accept that you can and will lie to yourself and others and you will make progress in beating the lies. I STILL find myself doing it, you BELEIVE you are telling the truth (hence pathological part) but you're not. It's something about the way the brain is wired.

Before anyway flames me... I'm not slamming ANYONE. I am preaching the truth, at least as I see it and/or it applied to me.

I am currently 236lb 35yo male, down from 322lbs 3 yrs ago. No activity to Ironman 70.3 last year (and 2 half marathons, half dozen sprint tris, various 5k/8ks, etc).

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4. Jan 28, 2007 9:48 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Hey Ron, No McDonalds??? they have a great asian chicken salad (gotta get it grilled) and the dressing it comes with is 90 calories for the whole pack. I always get that!!

Good ideas for meals:

breakfast: Kashi go lean crunch cereal, YUMMY
Scrambled eggs (one whole and two whites), on a carb control tortilla with fat free mozz cheese.

lunch: pre cook up a bunch of chicken breasts, however you like them and freeze the individually. for lunch defrost one in the microwave, cut it up in little pieces and put in a whole pita with lettece, cucumbers, carrots, fat free mozz cheese, mayo and mustard. Serve with fruit and some Kashi ranch flavored crackers.

The biggest thing that has helped me with eating while training, my meals needed to be bigger. I always found myself "dieting" and would be hungry after I ate which made for bad choices with snacking. With the bigger meals, I am rarely hungry between meals and when I am it's mini bags of microwave popcorn, the kashi crakcers, or a protein shake.
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5. Jan 28, 2007 12:10 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Oh, good point - Have to figure out how to never be hungry. I do it with 6 meals/day.

Breakfast - Bagel w/ Peanut butter
Second Breakfast - Bannana and/or Fruit and Walnut salad
Lunch - varies, but it's my biggest of the deal
Second Lunch - Kashi bar, Cliff bar, bannana, soy beans, pretzel or two, chicken breast (grilled from home), watermelon, apple slices - whatever. Not all of this but some mix depending on my workouts for the day
Dinner - varies but try to be much smaller. Lean meats whenever possible
Second Dinner - Some fruit or Veggie or if I'm dying some cheerios with milk and a little sugar (got to drop that). low sodium V8.
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6. Jan 28, 2007 12:58 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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I tried to get back on the path of eating healthily this year - I fell off after the birth of my daughter and death of my mother, but I am ready to get back to the eating that makes me feel good. Before I had my daughter, I lost 50 lbs on a hybridized version of Weight Watchers and whole foods (I guess it is sort of what the Core program is now). Even then, nearly the smallest I have ever been (a size 12), I was 160 at 5'2". I think I am just plain old dense.

So, now I am back to eating only whole grains, no sugar (except for my morning coffee, and I am weaning off that), almost no processed foods, lean meats and lots of salad and veggies. I am much more strict during the week, so that I can splurge a little on the weekends, when my husband cooks. Luckily, we have always fed our daughter "real food", so I don't have that kiddy stuff tempting me. For me, it is mostly about portion control.

My trouble lately is finding that balance between enough to power me while running and still dropping off the pounds/fat. My first 2 weeks on the C25K, I felt ravenous all the time, and didn't feel like I lost any weight (I don't have a scale) based on the fit of my clothes. So off I go to the internet to research calorie requirements (why, I don't know since I hate counting calories), and find that I need about 2000 to lose weight at a healthy rate. Yet SparkPeople tells me I need 1250 - 1390. Hmmm.. So I wonder if I was eating too little, and my body was holding on to the weight. I bumped up what I was eating this past week, and things seem a little better.

Regardless of whether I am losing, I feel great! And I have discovered that running is not as bad as I always thought - I actually like it!

So, that is my long, convoluted way to say, I hear ya people!
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7. Jan 28, 2007 1:07 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Any thoughts on healthy but yummy cereals? I really, really love cereal, which has been a periodic caloric downfall for me. Read: I can and have eaten entire boxes of things like Lucky Charms (I always save the marshmallows for last) and Life. I love cereal for breakfast, but eat it as a snack as well. Does anyone have suggestions for either alternatives or tasty (sweet?) whole-grain options? Thanks!

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8. Jan 28, 2007 4:30 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Cereal? How about honey nut cheerios,BUT buy a box of regular cheerios and mix them together. This halves the sugar but you still have the flavor.
I also like Kashi Go Lean Crunch, again it is quite sweet so you could get the Good Friends cereal and mix it together to increase the fiber content and reduce the sugar.
Often in the natural food aisle there are really tasty hot cereals. I got a 5 grain oatmeal hot cereal the other day at our local store that is really good.
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9. Jan 28, 2007 5:48 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by steinerruns:
Any thoughts on healthy but yummy cereals? I really, really love cereal, which has been a periodic caloric downfall for me. Read: I can and have eaten entire boxes of things like Lucky Charms (I always save the marshmallows for last) and Life. I love cereal for breakfast, but eat it as a snack as well. Does anyone have suggestions for either alternatives or tasty (sweet?) whole-grain options? Thanks!

iwilldoit: It really IS all about how you feel!
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there are some great sorta-junky-but-not-too-bad-for-you cereals in the health food section. Barbara's peanut butter puffins are delish! They aren't terribly bad for you, but not good either. But hey, it's still a lot better than cap'n crunch.
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10. Jan 29, 2007 3:23 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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I have found Kashi - Heart to Heart (kinda of like cheerios) but even less sugar to be good (even my kids like it).
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11. Dec 27, 2007 8:59 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
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I've been following a Mediterranean lifestyle/diet for the last few years. Weight loss has been slow but steady. Mostly all portion control issues having to do with balancing training and frankly, really enjoying food.

I'm a firm believer in "one has to lose weight eating what one plans to eat everyday for the rest of their life if one wants to keep the weight off." I never have understood the logic where one thinks they can eat all these different things in order to lose weight, but at some point when the weight is lost, you can go back to eating what you used to.

What you used to eat made you fat.

It's totally all about a complete lifestyle change, IMHO.

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12. Jan 30, 2007 9:53 AM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Here's what I've found works best for me. With heavy running (right now I'm marathon training), and still losing a good amount of weight:


-I eat clean, whole grain, or fruit/veggie carbs all **** day. Oatmeal, whole wheat pitas with hummus and spinach(I make it myself and make it very low fat), whole wheat toast with low-sugar jam, pasta with a healthy sauce, good granola, brown rice, tabouli (homemade low-fat), grape nuts, cheerios.

-I eat one protein serving, in addition to what I get from my staple foods (the carbs) per day. Usually beans with the rice, non-fat yogurt with the grape nuts, soymilk with the cheerios, edamame, or wild alaskan salmon. Sometimes I'll have a whey shake.

-I eat one fat serving. Peanut butter on toast, extra oil in my tabouli, edamame, flax seeds in the oatmeal, things like that.

A "serving" is probably two actual servings, in most cases. I know it sounds extreme to have one serving of protein and one servings of fat per day, but you have to realize that whole grain carbs have plenty of fat and protein themselves! And if you eat a variety of sources, you will get all the amino acids you need.

This makes it very easy to adapt my diet when my tastes change. I simply use these simple rules: Good carbs all day, good fat twice a day, and good protein once a day, and everything works itself out. I usually end up getting around 2500 calories, with a breakdown of 55/30/15 carb/fat/protein, which is just where I want to be.

I think that a carb heavy (good carb) diet is the key to losing weight while doing an excessive amount of training.

For example, here's what I had/am having today:

Breakfast: Oats. Probably three servings of oats.

Snack: Orange, cup of granola

Lunch: Three whole wheat pita pockets (half a pita) stuffed with hummus and spinach.

Snack: Orange, cup of granola

Dinner: Three servings of edamame (My protein and fat right here)

Snack: Carrots

I know this kind of simple meals would probably bore people to tears. But it's what works for me, I'm a lazy cook and won't make anything complex.
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13. Jan 31, 2007 2:41 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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FWIW I trained for a 1/2 marathon while doing weight watchers. I found the first two weeks the hardest because you have to get used to the reduction in serving size. I actually felt more energized while dieting - I think it had something to do with the replacement of much of the carbs in my diet (one of my big weaknesses) with vegetables and lean protein.

I typically ran 4 times/week bike commuted to work (45 min round trip) and played hockey once a week. Remember the weight watchers program allows you to increase your food intake to reflect exercise.

There are also some very good cookbooks out there that teach you about nutrition, proper serving size and tricks for making your favorite meals low fat. I was amazed at how much I was over eating before.
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14. Jan 31, 2007 3:48 PM in response to: StarieEyed06
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Eat less.
Exercise more.

Why do people make it so complicated?