Hopefully in this forum people will get left alone while not totally discounting reasonable debate and legitimate questions.

Over in Clubhouse it's a different world and that's what I love about it, but what happens in Clubhouse should stay in Clubhouse.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by rootsrunner:
Good luck with this forum.

FWIW, a similar wave of response occurred initially when the "Jeff Galloway" forum started up. After the first few weeks of banter and naysaying by a few, I haven't heard much out of that group. The fact that its still going is a positive sign for the C/A people.

I met a talented and well trained "Clydesdale" athlete after the Boston Marathon who ran 2:56. He worked at his running and the results show. 6' 3" and 225lbs. He was once 280 lbs.

Being a Clydesdale, Athena, or a overweight runner AND a fast runner is not necessarily mutually exclusive. For sure, achieving personal records regardless of your weight, is an exhillarating feeling.

Best of luck defining your niche within the CR community.


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well, I know a clydesdale guy that runs 2:45 and he is already a coolrunner. I think anytime a forum chooses a new moderator, they should fill the shoes better. I really think someone suggesting a new forum and then suggesting themselves as a moderator, doesn't cut it.

Moderating really has nothing do with one's running ability, but I think to earn credibility as a new forum, the moderator "should" be a great fit. There are a few runners that actually win hardware in A&C divisions that frequent other areas of CR that have alot of knowledge that goes beyond "newbie". How about a co-moderator that can "run the run"?

Here's your icon. He weighs 200 pounds at 6' 4" and recently ran a 2:40 marathon.


You're confused, Kristine. Most of the people in the Clubhouse aren't crazy, they're morons. If you want to see crazy, picture a forum where it seems like a good idea to have a moderator who has been running one month, takes an hour to complete a 5K, and thinks his labels apply to people like homeboy pictured right here. Now THAT would be NUTZ!!!!!

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Voodoojunkie:
There was a request for moderators for this forum open to anyone who wanted. No one chose the moderator.

You showed your true, ugly feelings with your comments in the CH and I suggest you keep them there with the rest of the negativity that makes up that jackassery of a forum.<HR>

who the heck reads "suggestions"?? The CH is for fun and I thought my comment was just that. I guess it's okay for you bigger runners to suggest that thin runners are thin because we stick our fingers down our throat. But my comment is negative??? Sorry, but if your bodyfat is over 30%, your "are" fat. I guess I could say "bigger" and gloss it over. But I have trouble with that because I'm "bigger", when I line up in a race I'm "bigger" that those 100# ladies I toe the line with.

You want to know what is ugly, calling yourselves clydesdales when your are just an overweight people with one month of walking under you belt. Some clydesdales do not want associate with that. They've been running for years and have low bodyfat and they run 100% of their races. So go ahead take the title "clydesdale/athena" and they'll won't come in here. Who does that leave for this forum? people that are overweight and trying to run to lose some weight. Good luck.

Here's my $.02...
I am a beginning runner. I have weight to lose. It is sometimes hard for me, even in the Newbies section, to read posts from people who may be new runners but are smaller than I will ever be. I thought this board would be a place where I (as someone who struggles with finding running clothes and is embarrassed to run in front of people at the gym) could ask questions specific to my needs and get feedback from those who could identify with me. And that veteran runners could have insight for those of us that are overweight and running to lose some weight.
The ugliness I have seen on this board saddens me. It makes me less likely to ask some of the questions I have. And I think that was the purpose of the board...to create comfort and understanding.
I hope all of this eases up...and that I come back.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by RunMommaRun:
Voodoo is wise.

Sue, why all the hostility? And why do you care so much?

So what if someone is here and been walking for a month. At least they are walking.

I'm here. I'm 5'8", 174 pounds, getting ready to run my first half marathon. I'm an Army veteran, mother of two, and 41 years old.

When I run, it's about me, my body, and the road. Not the gazelle 19 year old running ahead of me.

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I guess I shouldn't care, it's not my fight, you're right. I'm not even an athena, for me to run athena, I would be obese (and that would be according to medical standards, not being mean).

I apologize if I come off as hostile. I just think this forum distances itself and it's not a good idea. What make you and I different is not our size, it's the mindset and experience. And I guess that's okay, I'll stay out. But I do know about chafing matters, I do know about feeling bigger than those around me. But that 19 year old gazelle, well after years of my trials and tribulations, she'll be "behind" me.

But the mindset is "we are big, and it's okay" or you would have experienced runners in here, and if you are running your first half marathon, why aren't you in newbie getting advice? What exactly is your contribution? Again, congrats on doing what you are doing, but what makes you qualified to give advice as an Athena runner?

Again, I apologize if this seems hostile, it is not meant to, I just don't understand the "fit". But as stated by you, and I do back you up on this, "why do I even care"?

quote:<HR>Originally posted by sue:
who the heck reads "suggestions"?? The CH is for fun and I thought my comment was just that. I guess it's okay for you bigger runners to suggest that thin runners are thin because we stick our fingers down our throat. But my comment is negative??? Sorry, but if your bodyfat is over 30%, your "are" fat. I guess I could say "bigger" and gloss it over. But I have trouble with that because I'm "bigger", when I line up in a race I'm "bigger" that those 100# ladies I toe the line with.

You want to know what is ugly, calling yourselves clydesdales when your are just an overweight people with one month of walking under you belt. Some clydesdales do not want associate with that. They've been running for years and have low bodyfat and they run 100% of their races. So go ahead take the title "clydesdale/athena" and they'll won't come in here. Who does that leave for this forum? people that are overweight and trying to run to lose some weight. Good luck.
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At least your true feelings are coming out or being repeated, I guess.

The fact of the matter is people over a certain weight qualify for the Athena or Clydesdale division. I've checked that box on more than one occassion.

For the record, I'm about 17 percent body fat. I've been running for nearly three years and run seven marathons and one ultra. I've run a 1:50 half marathon, a sub-4-hour marathon and 49-minute 10ks, although by your standards I'm sure I'm slow.

In CH fashion, you throw out the, "I guess it's ok for you bigger runners..." I haven't seen anywhere in here where people are bashing other runners. You're doing all the bashing here and in the CH for some unknown reason.

I agree with you that there isn't a strong contigency of competitive A/C's in here. I've seen a couple posting and I don't include myself in that group. I do ok, but I'm not fast enough yet to be competitive.

I would like to see more competitive discussion for my own selfish reasons. I'm not interested in diet threads or clothes threads or chaffing threads. I've either got those issues figured out or don't have some of those issues or don't really care, as in the case of diet.

Perhaps more will show up to discuss competitive issues. This forum is only two days old. Maybe not and the forum will fail. Maybe it'll succeed and there will not be enough information for the likes of me and I will not venture in here after a while.

But I will not bash the forum for what it is or what it is not just as I had nothing to say about the Galloway forum. But I've hung around the CH enough to know many people in there simply need something to b!tch and moan about daily to affirm their existance and make themselves feel better.

And by what I've seen in the CH lately, this opportunity couldn't have come along at a better time.