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418 Views 8 Replies Latest reply: Apr 8, 2007 9:45 PM by pcsronbo006 RSS
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Mar 27, 2007 7:32 PM

Heat

I mean REAL heat. Uncomfortable, things don't work like they normally do, that kind of heat.

1. How do YOU define heat? (Me - anything over 80)
2. How badly does heat impact you? (i.e. Me - over 80 I see a dramatic slowdown on the run, over 90 I can't really last more than 30min, over a hundred I melt into a puddle of goo instantly)
3. What do you guys do to mitigate the heat? i.e. tips and tricks to allow you to handle it better, esp in regards to RACING in the heat.

I'm 1/2 Iron training which means my 1/2 Marathon will be at the END of 4hours of high intensity. Then the fun starts. Last year I had a 3:40ish 1/2 Marathon. Even for me (PR of 3:19 prior... even though the 3:40 was mostly flat and 3:19 major hills) - that's slow.



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  • pmcneb Community Moderator
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    1. Mar 28, 2007 9:59 AM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    ugh Heat. I can hardly wait for it. (not)

    I am usually ok in the mid 80's. Over that and I am wiped out.

    I am married to a man who loves heat. I think his favorite run is 3 miles in 100+ temps.

    Last summer we trained together for a half. I was ok on the flats but the hills were a challenge. Too many times I came home to immediately throw off my shoes and run the garden hose over my legs to cool down.

    My best time in the mornings is about 7 am. By then the sun has burned off some of the humidity. Anything after 10 am and i am a no-go.

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    2. Mar 28, 2007 5:21 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    I consider it warm above 70º.  Short runs of 3-4 miles really don’t bother me. However, I really start to fade time-wise after about 4 miles, especially if the heat is combined with humidity. I did a marathon a few years ago when the temperature got up to about 85º with high humidity.  I hit the wall after 24 miles, and alternatively walked and jogged the last two miles. Time-wise it was not one of my better marathons; however, I probably finished higher-up percentage-wise than any of my others.

    In terms of tips, I try to hydrate, run in the early morning, and wear light clothes.

  • hawaiiantk Amateur
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    3. Mar 28, 2007 11:56 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    It's never too warm for me to run.  I don't have humidity to deal with though.  Maybe 20%. 

    You could try one of those neck-wrap things with the filling in it.  You soak it in cool water and then wear it around your neck to help keep you cool.  I sent them to my DH in Iraq and he said they were <meh> ok, but he was dealing with 138 degree temps.  It might work better for you.  Hydrate well before you run also.

  • Dana Becker Amateur
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    4. Mar 30, 2007 3:55 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    High 80's if we have low humidity....down to mid to high 70's if we have high humidity.

    How do I cope? Water. Lots of it. And slowing down. Many people don't slow down near enough in the heat. This summer I will be using my heart rate monitor though...and it doesn't lie about how hard I'm working. 

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    5. Mar 31, 2007 6:07 AM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    Hydration is the key. Where I'm at, it's usually windy. That helps keep things cool. I've soaked shirts in water and ran in them. I work out side all year. I've soaked hats in water and put them on.

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    6. Apr 8, 2007 1:46 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    I just saw a good suggestion to try to immerse yourself in water if you can. The suggestion came from a ultra runner list. Was to lay down in a couple creeks in a certain race.

    I know Scott Jurek laid down in a bathtub full of ice during Badwater.

    But the above are talking about extremely long runs.

    I do have a suggestion. I have a hat that I fell in love with when I did a 20 mile run in 100+ temperatures. It worked especially good in the dry climate I used it in. Kept my head cooler than it would have been.....definitely.

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  • tithers Rookie
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    7. Apr 8, 2007 7:26 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    Ron-is your PR at a half IM or just a half mari?

    I'm figuring the gulf coast tri will take me anywhere b/w 7.5-8 hours total. I can run a half in 2:30...by that's not after a long swim and ride...plus it's gonna be HOOOOOT!

    I figure swim will take an hourish and the bike 3.5. Then there's transition, sunscreen, poo if the tummy is having a bad day. I'll pee the bike...poo, definitely not!

  • pcsronbo006 Legend
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    8. Apr 8, 2007 9:45 PM (in response to pcsronbo006)
    Re: Heat

    quote:

    Originally posted by tithers:

    Ron-is your PR at a half IM or just a half mari?

    I'm figuring the gulf coast tri will take me anywhere b/w 7.5-8 hours total. I can run a half in 2:30...by that's not after a long swim and ride...plus it's gonna be HOOOOOT!

    I figure swim will take an hourish and the bike 3.5. Then there's transition, sunscreen, poo if the tummy is having a bad day. I'll pee the bike...poo, definitely not!

     



    Half Mary standalone - 2:38, on a flatter course probably 2:30. But the 1/2 Iron was 7:3X, this year hoping for 6:30. However, the big issue is going to be the heat. By the time I started the run last year in my 1/2 Iron it was already 82degrees. I had been pouring water all over myself during the bike - I used the aid station water to pour on my neck. I used my camelback for my drinking. It worked out pretty good.

    But once the run started... Ug. Ended up with Ice, dumping water (note: do not dump water such that water ends up in SHOES - wet, abused feet for almost 8 hours = unhappy feet).

    due to the heat, I expect, I basically didn't pee at all during the entire 7.5hrs. I thought I needed to on the run, but not really. I peed like an hour later. And I hydrated like freakin n00tz.

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