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Click to view notting hillbilly's profile Rookie 5 posts since
Dec 30, 2007

Mar 11, 2008 6:14 AM

Oww! My bloody feet!


I am now doing 30+ minutes three times a week (35 mins, 5km last night) and my feet are bloody killing me. No specific pain, just aching all over. Doubtless they are unaccustomed to having 14 stones of middle-aged lard-arse pound onto them several thusand times, but I bought new, expensive shoes before I started this malarkey.

Any suggestions? This morning I'm walking so gingerly it's almost comical.

Click to view Michael.'s profile Community Moderator 676 posts since
Nov 9, 2007
1. Mar 11, 2008 7:43 AM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
Perhaps I am the wrong person to ask because I have had feet pain for a long time because I am currently dealing with a case of plantar fasciitis. When you bought your shoes I am assuming you were fitted at a running shoe store. If you need special shoes due to your gait the wrong type of shoe will be painful even if they are expensive. How much mileage do you have on your shoes? If you have a lot of kilometers on your shoes they have lost their support capabilities.

If the pain gets bad or intolerable for you see a sports injury doctor and they might be able to help.

Mike
Click to view juststarted's profile Community Moderator 787 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. Mar 11, 2008 1:03 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!

I think New Balance's website has a section where they show you how to lace your shoes if you are experiencing pain in different parts of your foot (if you do a "foot pain" sear here you could find out some more too). I used it when the tops of my feet were hurting after I started running and it helped. Who knew???
Click to view milkbaby's profile Expert 36 posts since
Oct 23, 2007
4. Mar 12, 2008 3:20 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!

Like suggested, make sure you haven't laced your shoes so tightly that the pressure on top is hurting your feet. Otherwise, it's not unusual to get some foot pain when you are a novice runner simply because your body is getting used to the running. If that is the case, over time your feet will get stronger too as long as they get enough recovery between runs. 14 stone is not unusually heavy but it depends on your height and body frame; if you're 6 foot 6 inches tall it's not too bad but if 5 foot 6 inches that's not too good. :)
Click to view juststarted's profile Community Moderator 787 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. Mar 12, 2008 3:58 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
Also, the running store I go to puts me in shoes 1/2 size bigger than my normal size. Don't know if that might be a cause or not....
Click to view irongazelle's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Mar 4, 2008
6. Mar 12, 2008 5:08 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!

I'm what some refer to as a "shoe geek." In other words, I work in a running store and this is what I do... all... day... long... I know more about feet and shoes and biomechanics than is probably healthy for someone who does not practice medicine, so hopefully some of the following will come in handy:

-I will have to agree with Michael on having the proper shoes. The fitting process you described is pretty standard, but does not mean it was done correctly. If your feet are killing you within 5K, something is probably very wrong. You may want to go back to the store where you purchased the shoes and be evaluated once more. Most reputable running stores will work with you to make sure you are positively satisfied.

-Do your feet hurt first thing in the morning? Or when standing up after prolonged periods of standing? If so, it might be plantar fasciitis. The pain does not have to be strictly in the heel - it could be right up at the base of the toes! If it kills you to hop out of bed in the morning, that might be your cause.

-Over pronation can definitely cause some serious pain, so be sure you are getting enough (or maybe... not too much) medial support. Further, if the shoes feel unnatural, like the arch is too high or in the wrong place, that will cause some pain. You don't have to feel the arch to be properly supported, and something that feels "odd" doesn't mean it's good for you. Running shoes should be the very most comfortable shoes you own - fitting and feeling natural, like a pair of roomy but secure slippers.

-There is someting to be said for just getting started. When one is new to the running world, there are all kinds of new aches and pains one must overcome. Just as your calves or hamstrings can get sore, so can the muscles in your feet. If you are doing too much too soon, your body is going to tell you - and it might be doing so through your feet. Standard rule is increasing your distances by 10% (yes, only ten percent) per week. If you are jumping from 1K to 2K, that's a 100% increase, despite it seeming like such a small distance. If you look back at what you've done and you see some pretty dramatic increases in distance - and dramatic increases in pain at the same time - there might be a correlation. When in doubt, back off on the distances for a bit and see if your feet are a little happier.

That covers some of the most basic topics. Of course, there is a lot of other possibilities out there (running on softer surfaces, wearing synthetic - NOT COTTON - socks, etc), but limited means in which to convey them over the internet. If there is one last suggestion I might make, it is ICE after you run. Ten to fifteen minutes of ice can do your feet a world of good (be sure to keep something between your skin and the ice to avoid frostbite). And of course... stretch! :)

Click to view irongazelle's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Mar 4, 2008
7. Mar 12, 2008 5:10 PM in response to: juststarted
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
Typically, going up in size won't 'cause a problem - it's usually the other way around! Wearing running shoes that are too small are probably one of the biggest problems I see every day. If the shoes are not secure on your feet, the size might be an issue because it will make you squirm and "grab" with your toes - causing cramps. However, it is common for most people to go up at least a full size in their running shoes.
Click to view juststarted's profile Community Moderator 787 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
8. Mar 12, 2008 5:14 PM in response to: irongazelle
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
Sorry. what I meant was - My shoes are bigger than normal. If yours are not, could that be the problem. Meaning, do you need bigger shoes?
Click to view dalorah's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
9. Mar 14, 2008 12:41 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!

On the ice thing, which I do after a long run when my feet are pounding, try ice in water in a bucket.


Doug
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Click to view Michael.'s profile Community Moderator 676 posts since
Nov 9, 2007
11. Mar 17, 2008 8:16 AM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
I had foot and knee pain a year ago and my general doctor said to stop running. I did and my pains did go away. I started biking instead and enjoy that activity but I still really wanted to run. In November I began running and started having knee and foot problems again. This time I went to a sports injury doctor. I really like these guys because sure I can stop running and reduce my injury but this doctor treated my injury while trying to keep me in my sport. Seems a lot of my problem was due to week quads and quad exercises helped and kept me in running shoes.

Before giving up your sport I would see a doctor that specializes in sports injury problems for a seocnd opinion. Hopefully they can work with you to keep you running. Good luck and I hope everything turns out for the best.

Mike
Click to view soapysuds's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Feb 27, 2008
12. Mar 17, 2008 3:45 PM in response to: notting hillbilly
Re: Oww! My bloody feet!
I've been diagnosed with fallen arches too but the pain was specifically at the top of the arch on my foot.. I got some sports insoles and although initially I found it very difficult to even walk in them.. I became accustomed to them within a week (I didn't just follow the couple of hours a day as advised though, I dived in and struggled on). I stopped running until the pain was minimal.. then started again (the following aches only occured whilst walking and only for a few extra days.. while running I had no pain). Yes, it's possible that you were wrongly diagnosed but he's the expert here.. you've already ordered the orthotics too so you might as well give them a whirl now.. besides they're meant to correct other foot problems besides fallen arches.. just so you know, so they may still help even if your arch wasn't the problem for you. Basically I just wanted to say that you can still run after getting insoles :)

ohh.. one more thing.. you're meant to rip out your old insoles from your shoes :/ I did with my normal pairs of shoes but now with my running shoes.. with those I bought some softer insole and used them on top.

Anyway I hope you get some relief from the pain soon and don't let this problem stop you running! :) good luck.