<<<I guess I don't understand the big stink.
The only stink is the one rule breakers bring. It's the same stink that socially uncooperative people bring to any gathering. The stink isn't there until you get there. Not much to understand. Seems pretty clear to me.
<<< I would imagine "elite" runners are mentally absorbed with stride counts, breath counts, listening for footsteps, etc.
"Imagination" can be faulty. "elite" folks in any endeavor generally do what they do without all the seemingly conscious stuff that people like you attribute to them. Just another example of things you don't understand.
<< Therefore, I look at the rules that say "no iPods" and ignore them, which is as it should be.
So, it's all about you. Right?
<<<I can tell you one thing, the first race to actively kick someone out for using an iPod would be a freakin' ghost town on the next running.
Well Mr rocket scientist, you'd be wrong because the events that are enforcing the rules are selling out earlier and earlier as they always have.
You see, the IPOD thing really doesn't matter in the end to you loud mouths because you are not going to pass up the better races just to spite essentially nobody but you. More and more races have figured out that the PR has not hurt any race yet because you twits are spinning in the wind independently with no way to really cause any sizable group problem. And there are plenty of runners to replace you in the registration queue anyway. You complainers are being seen as insignificant when it comes down to it. Emotional blackmail is seldom effective after the initial assault. It just takes most managers longer to realize they were pandering to you guys when their event is more important in the end. You loose.
<<NHSenior, I can understand your objection, and if your goal is to keep running "pure" and unsullied by the unwashed masses (myself included) then you are destined to be running in very lonely races.
It has nothing to do with purity, it has to do with safety and liability exposure in the end. You guys bring up all the other issues and because people like me happen to comment on your other issues you so you incorrectly say that we think they are germane to the main safety/liability. there are not germane at all.
<<<< You won't meet a bigger bunch of rule-oriented people than the Marine Corps. If they don't have a problem with it, then why should you?
Well a personal real world answer would be one your parents probably told you (or should have told you) many times. "If Johnny's parents let him jump off the cliff, that's up to them. We aren't going to let you do it." . Should I continue to talk to you like the denied child you are acting like?
Perhaps the MC doesn't get involved in the rules because the MC does not own nor manage the Marine Corp Marathon (Did you know that?). Not enforcing rules does sound a bit out of character for the MC which should have had bells going off in your head that maybe the MC does not call the shots in that event. They bless it but don't manage it. Closed courses are a different issue when it comes to safety, but the increasing congestion and increased ipod use are conspiring to make "incidences" more noticable even on closed courses. What's happened is that non-ipod users are actually paying more attention to the misqueues, cut offs and cluelessness that ipods carry around them like a fog. Like I've told many of the previouse pro-ipod posters, more noise about the issue please. It's working.
Got any more well thought out stuff for us.