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Apr 13, 2008 7:16 AM by
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602 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
Apr 10, 2008 7:03 PM
New Shoes
Hi guys. I'm throwing around points. Wohoo!
So, after my eating binge, I felt slightly guilty. I bought new sneakers on Tuesday. I wore them from noon to one for my workout with my trainer (all arms and abs, really just had the shoes on more to just get them on my feet not because they were actually needed). After that I decided to do some cardio. It was such a beautiful day, I decided to run outside. For the record, this was my first run on anything other than a treadmill since the day of the MCM (just over five months). I was out there for one hour. I ran/walked in intervals for the first 30 minutes, and then I walked for the last 30 minutes.
The new shoes are Asics Gel Nimbus. This is the first time EVER I have run in anything other than Nike Air Pegasus. Things I noticed - LOTS more cushion, and now I finally know what all of you are talking about when you mention ankle support. I never had anything like that with the Nikes. Problem - about 20 minutes into the run, I had a slight burning in the heel area - inside of heel only - on both feet (right worse than the left). I now have a blister on the inside of the right heel.
Is it the shoe, or is it just the first run in a new shoe? Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
3,124 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
Jerry(X) and Jerry were discussing this very issue in the "Why I wear inserts" thread. It seems you're not the only one.
602 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
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Apr 10, 2008 7:12 PM
in response to: lenzlaw
Re: New Shoes
Thanks Len. The one part I left out is this. NO INSERTS. INSERTS ARE EVIL. I tried to run with inserts last year, and I was practically crippled (the green ones). That's why I started a separate thread from the inserts thread. Inserts aren't going to help me any.
1,242 posts since
Nov 1, 2007
No new shoes!!! I'm running San Diego in a pair of Converse Chucks.....
3,124 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
OK, wasn't quite sure what kind of help you were after. You may have done this already. Check the shoes very carefully where the blister is happening. Is there anything you can see that may be causing it - a seam, etc? Does the insole curl up the side of your foot and rub? Maybe there's a little knot of thread there. If it's a seam or the like you may be able to put a piece of moleskin there to cover up the irritant. If it's the insole you may be able to (carefully) trim it. It sounds like the heel on these shoes is a tighter fit than what you've had in the past so it would be easy for something to irritate that another person (with a narrower heel) might not notice. Of course it's possible the heel may just be too snug for your foot. I've had shoes that I really liked but the toebox was snug and there would be a seam right over the little toe that would cause blisters. Moleskin fixed that.
2,188 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
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Apr 11, 2008 3:52 AM
in response to: lenzlaw
Re: New Shoes
Alternatively, they could be too loose. A shoe that constantly rubs creates friction of an area that can create blisters. Either way, Lauren, something's not right with the FIT of these shoes. I wouldn't condemn the shoes just yet. It is possible that they're just not right for "your" foot but no shoe should cause blisters. In more than 1500 miles of running, I have never had a blister.
848 posts since
Feb 4, 2008
Why the switch away from Air Pegasus? If there wasn't a reason for the switch other than trying something new, I'd go back to the tried & true. "If it ain't broke, don't break it." If there was a reason, then I would do more experimenting. Either way, follow Len & Jerry's (why am I suddenly in the mood for ice cream?)suggestions for checking the shoes; if you find something then there's still hope for the Nimbus. I'm no shoe expert, but I could imagine extra cushioning causing a blister; it's the same fear (merited or otherwise) that I've had when trying shoes at expos/stores in the past. Since you just bought them on Tuesday, you should be able to return them. It's certainly for a valid reason, you tried them once and got a blister. I suppose it's also possible that you're so used to the treadmill that perhaps your feet need to get used to road running again (total conjecture, no idea if this is a real phenomenon).
591 posts since
Jan 21, 2008
You also might try tying your shoes differently to ensure the heel is secure in your shoes...there use to be a post in here somewhere that had a link to different ways to tie your shoes to help with different problems.
133 posts since
Oct 17, 2007
Is it possible that the shoe is too wide around the ankle and your heel is moving too much? I can't really wear Nike's because the front of my foot is wide but the heel area is skinny. So it is possible you never had a problem with the Nike's because they have a more narrow ankle. I will try to explain how I have to lace shoes but I am not really good at explaining things. The top two holes on each side I switch the laces so that I pull the laces through from top of the shoe in so at the top the laces are pulling the top of the shoe together more that lacing it the normal way. A guy at a running store showed me that trick once. I hope that made sense. Might not be the problem but if the rest of the shoe worked and you can't take them back it may be worth a shot.
3,124 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
1,440 posts since
Jul 9, 2007
Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
Have you tried Body Glide?
Anyway, I made the mistake of wearing low cut socks (below the ankle) while breaking in a new pair of Brooks last weekend. I felt like I was getting a blister on my heel where the top of the back of the shoe was rubbing against my unprotected skin, but decided I could just drain it when I got home. Needless to say, when I got home I looked down and noticed that the back of my shoe was covered in blood and I was missing a nice sized chunk of flesh. Oops!
777 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
Jay,
I've done the same thing a couple of times to the backs of my ankles. I hate when that happens! I make a point now of buying running socks that are definitely long enough to go above the top of my shoes.
Looks like I won't make the New Market 5K tomorrow, by the way. Too much yardwork that needs to get done. 
Are you doing Isabella's tonight?
602 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback. I stopped using the Air Pegasus because of shin splints that just won't go away. No matter what. The Nimbus was recommended as a similar shoe to the Pegasus with a bit more support. I still have shin pain today just walking around (when right heel strikes the floor and foot is flexed upward toward shin; pain is in the lower half of the shin on the outer part of my leg - ouch, ouch, ouch. Also, if I make a "circle" in the air with my foot the shin pain stinks).
I'm beginning to wonder if running without pain is an option for me at this point. Just to give you all as much info as possible, the right shin even starts to hurt after about 15 minutes on the exercise bike. I always thought that was supposed to be easy on the shin. UGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. Back to work I go.
2,188 posts since
Jan 19, 2008
Lauren, this may just be standard shin splints. With your calf muscle being much bigger than your shin muscles it puts a tremendous amount of force on them. Only through time (and lots of stretching) do things start to equalize. Been there, done that. Definitely follow the RICE guidance whie you get back into the swing of things and maybe even a couple of ibuprofen if they hurt at bed time to lessen the pain and let you sleep.
3,124 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback. I stopped using the Air Pegasus because of shin splints that just won't go away. No matter what. The Nimbus was recommended as a similar shoe to the Pegasus with a bit more support. I still have shin pain today just walking around (when right heel strikes the floor and foot is flexed upward toward shin; pain is in the lower half of the shin on the outer part of my leg - ouch, ouch, ouch. Also, if I make a "circle" in the air with my foot the shin pain stinks).
I'm beginning to wonder if running without pain is an option for me at this point. Just to give you all as much info as possible, the right shin even starts to hurt after about 15 minutes on the exercise bike. I always thought that was supposed to be easy on the shin. UGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. Back to work I go.
That's almost exactly where mine is, but closer to the middle of the shin (right leg). It's worse the faster I run, starts at about 1 mile, goes away by about 3 (lousy for a 5K). It rarely bothers me in everyday activity. Your PT probably told you this - do a good job of stretching your achilles and calves. Avoid high heels when possible. There are many strengthening exercises which you likely also got from your PT. This is tougher than getting rid of plantar fasciitis. Though I haven't made a really concerted effort, because it doesn't bother me in the long run (pun intended), or the slow run. BTW, every pair of Nikes I've had made it worse, which is the main reason I don't wear Nikes.
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