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Click to view JacobBunner's profile Pro 75 posts since
Sep 25, 2007

Apr 11, 2008 2:43 AM

Pain in shoulders/back/trapezious muscles aero position


I bought my first tri-bike last year and did quite a few races. (Felt s-25) My shoulders/back/trapezious muscles are killing me. I just ignored it before, but now I would like to fix it. Should I move the handlebars up? I bought it at a real bike store and I was supposedly professionally fitted. Any help?


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Click to view Anthony_All3's profile Community Moderator 238 posts since
Aug 8, 2007
1. Apr 11, 2008 5:15 AM in response to: JacobBunner

I have 1 question, then 1 suggestion. Question: Are you fore arms parallel to the ground when in the aero position. You may be engaging you back muscles do to an incorrect set-up. Suggestion: I bought my bike at a reputable dealer and assumed they knew how to perform bike fits...wrong, if there not certified, there not proffessional. I got severe knee pain due to an incorrect set-up, was remedied in one visit to an ironman certifies bike fitting pro. Set ups are much more in depth than seat height and fore aft saddle position. Take it to a real pro and you will be amazed. Be aware that most shops will fit you to the bike, not the bike to you, just to make a sale. The frame might be a tad to big for you, causing you to stretch out a little more than needed engaging you muscle group you described.


-Anthony

Click to view niemsco's profile Community Moderator 189 posts since
Sep 24, 2007
3. Apr 12, 2008 9:10 AM in response to: JacobBunner
The bike fit is the way to go like Anthony said. It also never hurts to keep working on the core, not that you have a weak core, but you can never get enough core.

Its hard to say about raising aero bars without seeing your setup, what I did was actually move the aero bars towards me, so that I was less aero but more comfortable, making sure my elbows are right under my ears. That may actually put you in a more powerful position, meaning if you had a watts meter you may generate more power. I did also move the seat up a bit, just a tad. Typically the more aero you go, the less power you produce, and less comfortable you are (at least in my case). Strange, but true. However I'd always take power and comfort over aero. Your doing an ironman if memory serves, so you need the comfort.

Its impossible for us to tell if we don't see your position. And what worked for me isn't going to necessarily work for you. If the bike fit is out of the question, only thing to do is experiment yourself.
Click to view Mark Bieker's profile Rookie 1 posts since
Jan 29, 2008
5. Apr 14, 2008 7:01 AM in response to: JacobBunner
Obviously the best option is to go and get a professional bike fit. They should be able to adjust your bike to fit you unless you bought the wrong size bike all together. If cash is really tight then the first thing I would check for tight shoulders/neck pain is a seat thats not pitched up high enough. I'm not talking about the seat height but try bumping the nose the saddle up a bit more.
Click to view TriBen303's profile Amateur 12 posts since
Jan 8, 2008
6. Apr 15, 2008 11:15 PM in response to: JacobBunner

Jacob--It looks like these folks are on to something, and if I was asked by someone else I would say the same thing. I have a few thoughts for you to consider -and everyone else too. How much did you ride between your original fit and now? Did you put the bike away for winter and is the pain back now?

The first fitting typically can only get you about 90% of the way to the perfect fit. The next step is "tweaking the fit." This requires you to ride and ride to find where the next 10% of the fit comes from. Unfortunately, most fitters cannot see you out on the road in the middle where most problems are seen. "Where does it hurt?" can often tell you what needs to be adjusted. For the shoulder/trap/back area, try your bar position. Maybe you need to go up, maybe you need to go out or in too. Are your shoulders relaxed when you ride or are you all tightly packed up? If you have bad positioning in the upper body you're going to be sore.

Core work is always an option too. If you're supporting your weight on your arms instead of keeping them "light" by supporting your weight with your core, you might be crunching you're arms up.

Like the rest of these folks, I've not see you as you ride so it's difficult to diagnose over the Internet. Much like these other folks, I also think a good fit is worth paying a few bucks for even if it is at another shop.

Good luck.

Ben