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8 Replies Last post: Apr 25, 2008 4:46 PM by becks6pack  
Click to view becks6pack's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Jun 24, 2007
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Apr 18, 2008 9:20 AM

Down Weeks

I am currently training for 5k's. I usually do about 25 miles a week but I want to build up to 50 miles per week. Right now I do like one tempo run/fartlek/hill training a week, a long run, the rest easy days, then one day off. I am in pretty good shape, if I'm tired I'll take 2 days a week off. No speed work yet, maybe down the line but I don't want to rush into. I'm building up from 25 to 50 by something like this, not exactly...

30,30,35,down week, 35,35,40, down week,40,40,45, down week,45,45,50,down week,50

On the down weeks I'll cut back mileage and def take at least 2 days off to rest. My question is on those "down weeks" should I still do long runs and tempo/fartlek/hill training on those weeks but just cut back on the miles/pace??Thanks.|
Click to view littlewaywelt's profile Pro 181 posts since
Apr 1, 2005
2. Apr 25, 2008 7:41 AM in response to: becks6pack
Re: Down Weeks
I'd do ffive weeks to go from a base of 30 to 50, increasing 10 % per week - increasing stress to the rest point and then taking full advantage of the rest week. If I have any issues, I'll often take the whole week off.

30 33 36 rest week - 33 36 39 rest week - 36 39 44 rest week - 39 44 48 rest week - 44 48 52 rest week -

After a rest cycle Chris Carmichael advises taking one step back and not starting where you left off. His book is very interesting when it comes to training cycles/blocks

In rest week's I do only short, slow-paced recovery runs and 1 long run that's generally 2/3 of the distance of the long runs I'm up to. My rest week which follows a Sat long run are: Sun off, Mon Off, Tues Off, wed RR, Thurs RR, Fri LONG, Sat Off, Sun Off, next cycle begins on Mon


For normal training blocks I do one hard run (tempo, hills, interals, fartlek etc) and one long run per week. The rest is filler at 75% of my max hr. As I get closer to the race, I decrease mileage and add extra speed workouts.

Click to view SportiGrl's profile Legend 476 posts since
Jul 22, 2004
4. Apr 25, 2008 10:50 AM in response to: becks6pack
Re: Down Weeks

I have been loosely following the structure for training given in Pfitzinger/Douglas book 'Road Racing for Serious Runners' for the past few years when I hop in and out of running races (bad habit of mine, lol) It has schedules for training anywhere from 5K's ( with different milage options) all the way up to marathons.


The weekly outline you gave is basically what I follow as I progressed up from 5K's to a marathon in 2006 (over 5 1/2 month period) and ramped my milage up.

although I also did a medium LR on Wednesdays, about 2/3 - 3/4 the distance of my LR ... and my speed day was Tuesday and LT/tempos were on Thursdays ...


With sticking to 5ks I think keeping Wednesdays shorter would be alright but I'd seriously consider switching your rest day to Thursday and give yourself a little more time between your 2 faster workouts per week .... I'm personally doing that this time around ... speed on T and LT on F and easy Th and S with M cross-train or off.


When to start adding the speed and tempo workouts (intervals are much more appropriate for 5Ks) has a lot to do with when you are wanting to start racing. You should be adding the faster stuff in regularly about 12 weeks before optimal racing. I'd throw in striders at the end of some workouts as well.


I'm a huge fan of Pfitzinger and would highly recommend his books to anybody interested in improving their racing times.


Good luck.

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Jul 22, 2004
5. Apr 25, 2008 10:54 AM in response to: SportiGrl
Re: Down Weeks

Oh ... dopey me ... his step-back weeks usually come about every 4-5 weeks ... you do about 2/3 the previous weeks workload and maintain all the types of workouts at 2/3 the volume - approximately. So keep up the current types of workouts just make them shorter in duration.

He recommends 4 days between hard interval workouts and about a day per mile of a race at minimum.