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Click to view dancespinrun's profile Rookie 7 posts since
Jun 5, 2008

Jun 10, 2008 3:10 AM

Breathing problems with freestyle

I am having a lot of breathing problems when i attempt to keep my head down in the freestyle. I exhale through my nose and inhale through my mouth but when I get tired I get water up my nose. The more tired I get, the more water I inhale and it forces me to stop swimming because I freak out. Please ....any suggestions???
Click to view Anthony_All3's profile Community Moderator 238 posts since
Aug 8, 2007
1. Jun 10, 2008 5:31 AM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

Sounds like you start oput with good form and then lose it, meaning you are either swimming too fast or too great a distance than you are capable. Without seeing you swim all I can suggest is to make sure you rotate from the hips and get your facefar enough out of the water to get the appropriate amount of oxygen. If your tired you tend to swim flat, keep rotating.


-Anthony

Click to view Montyhth's profile Rookie 5 posts since
Oct 30, 2007
2. Jun 12, 2008 12:44 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

You need a lot more time swimming (the right way) is my best guess. Instead of blowing air out of your nose, try blowing out of your mouth, or some people hum. How long can you swim comfortably, before you start to lose it? Like the other person said, if you start out smoothly then it goes to ****, you're definately swimming too fast (or too inefficienty more likely). Go here and buy the package on the right, it will make you a better swimmer for sure. http://totalimmersion.net/products-bundles.html

Click to view waltor@scul.org's profile Rookie 1 posts since
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4. Jun 12, 2008 9:18 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle
nose plugs?? or isn't that cool? I use them but i am kind of new to tri-training but i am swimming 2.5 mile a week but I am not very fast. is there a reason not to use nose plugs?
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5. Jun 13, 2008 5:06 AM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

(Respectfully) Sounds like you need a lot of work on freestyle to become competitive. A 400 is a short warm up, not any type of distance where you should be hurting (especially for breastroke). Have you ever tried nose plugs? From the sound of it, you are not efficient in the water whatsoever. Do you have a HR monitor? I'd be interested to hear what your HR is doing. My guess is that it is crazy high as you're plowing through the water. Get that T1 stuff, it will help you greatly. Good luck
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6. Jun 13, 2008 5:07 AM in response to: waltor@scul.org
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

If somebody needs to use nose plugs then they're needed. Are they cool? Well, I wouldn't attempt to pick up any chicks with nose plugs in, but if they help in the water, then so be it.
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7. Jun 13, 2008 6:44 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

I have breathing problems every year after taking several months off from swimming. As someone who never really was comfortable swimming outside, I learned that it is seriously mind over matter and that you need to focus on relaxing. I try not to kick so this maintains my energy. If you hyperventilate, try exhaling out of both your mouth and nose completely before inhaling. I am guilty of hyperventilation by continuing to exhale when I am supposed to inhale, thus the overexertion leading to hyperventilation. The strangling wetsuit doesn't help much either.


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8. Jun 14, 2008 6:52 AM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

Your description sounds exactly like the way I felt when I started
swimming for tris last year. I would have to stop and catch my breath
after every 50. I agree with Montyhth that it's probably about rotating correctly, and staying at a good aerobic pace, and to learn to do that you need to put in the laps. I found I had several big things to correct. The first thing helped the most -- I was kicking like a crazy drowning person, raising my HR and using up all my oxygen. I worked on relaxing in the water, and kicking (at first) only twice, on each breath. Basically, hardly kicking at all. When I did that, I suddenly could put together many more continuous meters without getting that "I'm gonna drown" panic. So I could begin to focus on better form. Rotating enough is how you get your mouth out of the water without letting your hips sink, and your shoulder should actually be above the surface, your bellybutton facing the wall on each stroke. I'm not great at it, I work on it every practice, but I can swim a 1000 or 1500 comfortably now anyway.

I have to say I was really discouraged after working on it for 6 months and seeming to make no progress. Then I got a coach, and joined his masters swim team that practices three mornings a week, and the whole thing turned around within a month. Check around in your area -- if there are rec centers or pools there are probably masters swim practices. The group dynamics really help. Good luck -- it's worth sticking with it!

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10. Jun 15, 2008 1:35 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle
Dances-

Regarding the 400m breast. I knew what you meant, and I wasn't trying bash you. I was just trying to make a point that, if you are swimming at the appropriate pace (for yourself) you should not be winded and have to stop after 400 meters. Good luck!
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11. Jun 16, 2008 4:31 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle
Ok, my advice is to go to your local pool and get a coach or swim instructor (that actually knows what they are doing) to watch your stroke and help you out. I coach swimming, but also a few triathletes on the side. The main problem I find that a lot of people have is their breathing pattern. You don't breathe the same way in swimming that you do running. You actually want to inhale enough oxygen to get you to your next breath which is about 3-5 seconds. Don't hyperventilate, but you only want to inhale a small bit of air and then exhale completely before turning your head to inhale again. As one person I teach described it "The air feels as if it doesn't even reach your lungs but sits in the back of your throat." Sound comfotable, not really,. But try it and it will make a difference. Also get someone to watch your stroke.
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12. Jun 18, 2008 9:12 AM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

A great drill to help you with your breathing is to hold onto the side of the pool and rotate your hips from side to side. Hold on with both hands at first and let your hips do the movement. Relax your neck and head and allow your face to be in the water; as you rotate your face should come out of the water. For triatlons and my experience; I only breath on one side; which is very dependent on each individual swimmer. Swimming for triathlons in open water is very different from traditional swimming; so you will have to develop your own form and technique.

So basically you need to loosen up your hips with this drill and at the same time you can develop your breathing pattern. First start out with breathing on every other stroke; of course using your hips. Eventually you will be able to breathe on every fourth or even every fifth stroke. Remember to relax as much as you can; you do not swim faster because your arms are moving faster.

Swimming is only the warm up for the race; so if you are fast on your bike and a fast runner; I would not worry too much about the swim.


GOOD LUCK!

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13. Jun 19, 2008 12:05 PM in response to: dancespinrun
Re: Breathing problems with freestyle

I can't emphasize the book and CD's Total Immersion by Terry Laughlin more. I promise you that if you practice those drills, you will be a more efficient swimmer. I am new at swimming and love it. I can't believe i'm up to 30 min of non-stop swimming. All because of that book. I am doing my first triathlon on Saturday!